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3 Navy pilots receive air medal for averting crash
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Did they also pay for new flight suits or just the cleaning bill?
Never expected to see the Hawkeye power up out of the water.
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I'd say they deserve a lifetime supply... the Navy got a bargain
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Remember what we were saying a few days ago about ground effect?
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does water count ?
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Got me, Google is your friend.
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Mike, are you saying that "ground effect" may have given them just enough of a belly smack to keep them out of the drink until good old aerodynamics could save their bacon ?
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Ok, I actually went and read the definition.
Apparently "ground effect" is "good old aerodynamics"... duh, huh.
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Ok, I actually went and read the definition.
Apparently "ground effect" is "good old aerodynamics"... duh, huh.
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I suspect the "ground effect bubble" may have saved Doolittle's butt too on The Raid.
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Go to 4:00 point and watch some take offs. The birds are airborne before they reach the end of the flight deck.
click the link in the top line of the box
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-uSs0AagBc
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Top, the later ones unquestionably--the late Ed Saylor, Crew 15 top-gunner, once told me about how it looked like Doolittle dropped BELOW the deck before coming back up.
There's a man I wish I could have had more time to interview and learn from... I also wish he could have seen the wargaming miniature on my workbench of his old bird finished.
There's a man I wish I could have had more time to interview and learn from... I also wish he could have seen the wargaming miniature on my workbench of his old bird finished.
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Diamondback,
The guy that I wish that I had been smart enough to STOP what I was doing & go get a tape recorder to get down the 1st person memories of the WWI aviator, who passed through my college town (ETSU, now TA&M/Commerce) when I was an entering freshman in college in 1965. = He also flew with CPT Eddie Rickenbacker & was PRESENT when the first (known instance of ) shots being exchanged between 2 planes in flight but was not one of the "shooters".
He said that not only was nobody hit but the 2 aviators didn't even get close to hitting the other pilot with his pistol. - The former 1LT said that by the next week that every aviator was packing a sidearm or a rifle.
(The French Air Service even issued Winchester Model 1907 carbines in .351WSL caliber for "air to air engagements".)
yours, sw
The guy that I wish that I had been smart enough to STOP what I was doing & go get a tape recorder to get down the 1st person memories of the WWI aviator, who passed through my college town (ETSU, now TA&M/Commerce) when I was an entering freshman in college in 1965. = He also flew with CPT Eddie Rickenbacker & was PRESENT when the first (known instance of ) shots being exchanged between 2 planes in flight but was not one of the "shooters".
He said that not only was nobody hit but the 2 aviators didn't even get close to hitting the other pilot with his pistol. - The former 1LT said that by the next week that every aviator was packing a sidearm or a rifle.
(The French Air Service even issued Winchester Model 1907 carbines in .351WSL caliber for "air to air engagements".)
yours, sw
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SW, I've had the privilege of crossing paths with many aviation notables at various Museum of Flight events over the years up here, and there isn't a one, from Flying Tiger aces and Apollo 13 notables Jim Lovell and Gene Kranz down to the lowliest Black Sheep wrench-slinger, who I haven't wished I could have had more time to pick their brains.
Are you SURE you're not a closeted historian?
Are you SURE you're not a closeted historian?
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Diamondback,
IF I was a REAL historian I would have had a reel-to-reel tape recorder available that day to get his 1st person story recorded.
(Right place, wrong time, seems to be my fate.)
I also met TSG Jimmy Musgrove of the USAAC 8th AF (when I was in HS) & who fell out of the bomb-bay of a B17 TWICE during the war & survived. - Both times he landed in DEEP SNOW & wasn't seriously injured.
(When I asked him about his experiences, he said, "Well, I've always been a 'clumsy sort of fellow' & was always falling over my own feet." = Like every other REAL combat vet that I've ever met, he also said, "I didn't do anything important" during the War.)
At least I got him to talk about WWII. I never could get either my father (USAAF - 08DEC41 to 16AUG45) or my uncle (USN, 02JAN42 to 20DEC46) to talk about their experiences during the War.
(I didn't even know that either one was ever wounded until after they both passed away, when we found their ribbons. - My uncle was WIA at least 3 times & my father once.)
yours, sw
IF I was a REAL historian I would have had a reel-to-reel tape recorder available that day to get his 1st person story recorded.
(Right place, wrong time, seems to be my fate.)
I also met TSG Jimmy Musgrove of the USAAC 8th AF (when I was in HS) & who fell out of the bomb-bay of a B17 TWICE during the war & survived. - Both times he landed in DEEP SNOW & wasn't seriously injured.
(When I asked him about his experiences, he said, "Well, I've always been a 'clumsy sort of fellow' & was always falling over my own feet." = Like every other REAL combat vet that I've ever met, he also said, "I didn't do anything important" during the War.)
At least I got him to talk about WWII. I never could get either my father (USAAF - 08DEC41 to 16AUG45) or my uncle (USN, 02JAN42 to 20DEC46) to talk about their experiences during the War.
(I didn't even know that either one was ever wounded until after they both passed away, when we found their ribbons. - My uncle was WIA at least 3 times & my father once.)
yours, sw
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