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One of the b-a-a-a-d-d-e-s-t, funniest, darkest films of all time is out on DVD tomorrow, Bad Santa, but… and I can't wait!… this particular version is entitled "Badder Santa," containing an five extra minutes of footage incorporated into the film, as well as:
  • A "Badder Santa" gag reel (I generally don't like this type of "added feature" as it's usually tacked on to the end of a flick so people will leave the movie house laughing, thinking they've seen a funnier film then they actually have. All those dreadful good ol' boy Burt Reynolds flicks of 20-25 years ago used to do that, mostly with the hilarious Dom DeLuise flubbing lines and acting goofy. The only time I ever really saw it work well was with Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau and Burgess Meredith at the end of Grumpy Old Men, but then that was a hilarious film with which to start!)
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  • Behind-the-scenes feature (Ho hum… usually a promotional feature used as filler on cable channels to hype the threatrical opening of a film.)
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  • Deleted and alternate scenes (As a student of film, I'm always interested in the choices made in the editing room, etc.)
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  • Outtakes (probably the same material covered in the first item here.)[/*:m:2mfcvf04]
For those who missed it last Christmas season, the theatrical version of Bad Santa is about one slovenly ne'er-do-well grifter, drunk and degenerate "seasonal Santa" who has absolutely no (as in z-e-r-o) redeeming qualities… except that he has a nasty tongue and is often very funny. The character is played by the versatile Billy Bob Thorton, the former Mister Angelina Joli, and this is one role in which he doesn't feel the necessity of using a goofy wig, a set of false teeth and milk bottle-bottom glasses to assay the character of "Willie T. Stokes," an alcoholic chain-smoker with a foul-mouth and his own sexual gratification uppermost in his mind! His regular gig as an shopping mall Santa is nothing more than a ruse for pulling inside safe-cracking jobs to keep him in cheap booze and cigarettes the rest of the year.

He works with a dwarf henchman, Marcus, (Tony Cox) who plays elf to Willie's Santa as they target a different department store every holiday season.

This flick has "cult favorite" imprinted all over it, a nasty comedy without compromise. The Coen brothers, Joel and Ethan, conceived the basic idea (and serve as executive producers), but it's director Terry (Crumb) Zwigoff who brings his unique affinity for losers and outcasts to this twisted tale. Bernie Mac, the under-used Lauren Graham (her character is a bit of a problem drinker herself and who has a particularly wicked kink about guys in Santa suits), Cloris Leachman, and the late John Ritter (his final film appearance) add comedic support.

When we saw this New Year's Eve, I had no idea when they were going to release the VHS/DVD editions, given the seasonal aspects of the material… but 22 June works for me, and it's right there at the top of my must-buy DVD list!
 

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Dean, I have to agree about Grumpy Old Men, but I haven't decided which is funnier, the outakes from that, or the outakes from Grumpier Old Men. (Sophia Loren's mother is played by the same actress who played next-door neighbor "Millie" in the old Dick Van **** Show.)
 

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I watched 20 minutes of "Bad Santa" and couldn't stand anymore (wife liked it, though).

To my way of thinking, Billy Bob has only made one good movie (counting only movies that can be considered "his" movies and not ones he's just had a minor role in): the great "Slingblade".

It's been all downhill from there.
 

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I watched 20 minutes of "Bad Santa" and couldn't stand anymore (wife liked it, though).

To my way of thinking, Billy Bob has only made one good movie (counting only movies that can be considered "his" movies and not ones he's just had a minor role in): the great "Slingblade".

It's been all downhill from there.
Gonna have to disagree with you completely on this one.

I LOVED Bad Santa.

I don't think I've ever seen a BBT movie I didn't enjoy. ( I didn't see the asteroid one, though.)

At this very moment I'm about 90 minutes into his remake of Bad News Bears and love it. Wouldn't go so far as to say it's "better" than the original, but it's holding its own. Both are excellent and hilarious films in slightly different ways.

Interesting BBT trivia: Johnny Cash, Warren Zevon, and John Ritter all died within the same week (just about exactly 4 years ago, 2003). BBT was close personal friends with all three (he and Zevon lived in the same building for a while, in fact). Talk about having a bad week.
 

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bestseller92 said:
I watched 20 minutes of "Bad Santa" and couldn't stand anymore (wife liked it, though).

To my way of thinking, Billy Bob has only made one good movie (counting only movies that can be considered "his" movies and not ones he's just had a minor role in): the great "Slingblade".

It's been all downhill from there.
I don't know about you guys, but I thought The Astronaut Farmer was a good movie.
 

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I liked the original "Italian Job" very much, when i saw it as a kid on late night movies, However it does not hold up well to time and is VERY dated now. The new movie was better done, but too much of a sales tool for BMW for the Mini. The driving was just not as fun as the original.

I thought the new Casino Royale was a better film than the original, but that was not too hard to do.

I get very disappointed at the remakes of French farces by American movie houses, Tom Hanks "the Man with one red shoe", is a funny movie but pales in comparison to the original "The Tall Blond man with one black shoe". There are sequences in the original that make me fall out of the chair.

Robin Williams in the Bird Cage in some ways surpassed the original, but the original was a terrific movie. The French three men and a cradle, crushes the selleck vehicle, Three man and a baby.
 

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I generally dislike Thornton, but I didn't think he did too bad as Col. Crockett in the latest take on The Alamo.

(Family legend has it I'm descended from the aforementioned Texas martyr, so I've been doing a lot of research on him.)
 

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Hey, Dean or mods, I had the "best remakes" window open when I typed my response, any chance you can move that post over to the correct thread?
 

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Hey, Dean or mods, I had the "best remakes" window open when I typed my response, any chance you can move that post over to the correct thread?
It's not possible to move a post or posts to another thread. But you can copy your post here, add it on the other thread, and then I can come back and delete it here (and the above one, and this one) to clean things up. Best I can do.
 

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I generally don't like this type of "added feature" as it's usually tacked on to the end of a flick so people will leave the movie house laughing, thinking they've seen a funnier film then they actually have. All those dreadful good ol' boy Burt Reynolds flicks of 20-25 years ago used to do that, mostly with the hilarious Dom DeLuise flubbing lines and acting goofy. The only time I ever really saw it work well was with Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau and Burgess Meredith at the end of Grumpy Old Men, but then that was a hilarious film with which to start!
It has worked well with almost every Jackie Chan movie. They usually put a "feature" on the end where it shows all the stunts that failed (sometimes with painful results).
 
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