oldstar, just a few things ied like to clear up.
first off, yes i will admit i loath glocks, Sig (escept those new GSR 1911's) and anything that is not made from steel, wood and ivory. i make my money, its mine to spend and its my life on the line, so i dont turst my life to a 9mm cartrage that was new in 1908, not that cenntry old calibers are bad, the .45 Colt is older, and i have 3 diffrent handguns and 2 rifles for that round, but in 1920 the german desiners droped further desing on the 9mm bullet size becuase of its lack of power to kill and incapacatate. you dont see to many situations where a .45 Automatic wont do about 50 times better. whats better, 7 rounds that blow through both sides of your target taking everything out in between, or 16 rounds that just drill through with no expansion? take your pick.
2ed, the .500 magnums, .475's and .454's ire not intended for conceled carry, but for hunting some of the most dangrous game in the world, yes there is a good deal of recoil, but if youve grown up with it, its not bad at all. the big 45+ calibers are superb for hunting, and persoanl defense, howerver i say this with bears, cougers and "Big nasty fanged things" in mind, and while a .475 WILL stop an two legged attacker, i have a fealing youll be scraping the remanats off the walls for a year.
I dont know about some peolpe, but the recoil of a .45 ACP is not bad, my 10 year old neice shot a .45 ACP in my Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt/ .45 ACP! by the end of the day she was poping tin cans off an old stock tank from 25 feet with almost boring regularity. next step, the .357 Magunm!
the first gun i ever shot was when i was a skinney ten year old, my dear 'ol uncle gave me a S&W model 29 .44 Magunm, and on the first shot of that 4" brute, the hammer spurr gave me a nice scar over the bridge of my nose.
speaking of .357 magnums, i have a fealing that the guy you were talking about who got shot at point blank range was shot with a .38 Special, 99% of police offices do not permit .357 mags in duty guns (so called excissive force), and i will agree with you that a .38 is a horrible manstopper in its normal loading, "peppered-up" loads are better, but not by much. now, a .45 Automatic 1911 or a S&W model 25 .45 Colt, or model 29 .44 Magnum (using .44 specials of course) would have made a HUGE diffrnace.
i do however share your fealing on the 12 gauge. in addition to my .45 automatic, i keep a 12 gauge pump-action mossberg 500 for home defense. don't laugh!, i got for a hundred bucks at a grage sale, and fit a ghost ring slug barell and 24" mid and front bead bird barrel for trap shooting. you should see the look on the faces of some of them fellers when i drag out that old scared up pump gun, and while a good number of guys do use a pump action, its either a Browning, Remington or an Ithica, but none have a 1/4'' BOLT in place of a reciver pin!(hey it was 12 bucks for a new pin, and only 50 cents for a bolt and nut...)that gun does tripple duty though, with the long barrel i shoot trap and with the short one i hunt deer and have it for home and/or camp defense. a good load of 3" magnum 000 buck is quite disuaive to predators on 4 legs, and at home, a 2 3/4" load of 00 is just as good for those 2 legged preadors. at longer range however, in a true martial law enviroment of riots and mobs, i have a nice old Lee-Enfield .303 british with four 20 round magizinse full of that good manstopping .303 british battle rifle loading. also, an M-1 Garrand and a M-14 (with about a dozen clips for each) are always kept ready should the need arise. I belive M-14 to be the finest battle riffle ever be made. the M-4A4 carbine which is standard issue for my unit is a good weapon, but i still would like an M-14. (acculy i usuly get a 12 Gauge riot shotgun when we get our rifles issued to us, also the QM issues me a .45 Auto. i love being in the tank battalion! so many fun toys!)
Justin
PS mike, whats a BUG gun?