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Well, I thought I'd seen about everything until an article in Worldnetdaily said the BATF had declared Airsoft guns as machineguns - or at least the lower assemblies/receivers. This leap of logic and reason came about from a determiniation by the BATF the lower assembly could withstand the stress of firing real ammo if the rest of the weapon was completed with genuine firearm parts. That's as far as I could stomach. I want the stupid ass who came up with that one to assemble a cartridge firing weapon using the Airsoft lower receiver (they may have, but it didn't sound as if they did - it was conjecture and now BATF policy) and empty a 100-round double-drum .223 magazine. After all, I'm sure Obama would spring for a new hand/arm/face just so he could appease the rabbit people who whine about those horrible toy guns.
If I have left out valuable info, I apologize. But, the story ticked me off so badly, I couldn't get through it. You know, I think that big-mouthed socialist thug in the White House should act like a real man and be the first to try out a hybrid Airsoft/M-16. I'd like to see it televised, so the whole world can witness he's a man of his convictions. And, if it becomes a shrapnel device, he needn't worry - he's got one of those Caddillac health care plans. :evil:
 

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I have seen a discussion on this on another forum.
Apparantly, Airsoft weapons in other countries can be amazingly realistic even in comparison to what we have here - - - it seems there "might be" AR type Airsoft guns that are popular elsewhere which use parts that for all intents are real weapons except the upper is an Airsoft gun. It has been argued these guns do not come into America but are popular in Malaysia, Japan and that area of the world.
The particlar guns this story refers to were not supposed to be shipped here. Overseas they are very high end guns, and what we get are lower end versions which are acceptable here.
Yeah .. .I don't know if these "high enders" are real, I've never seen one, but there does seem to be more to this story than the FEDGOV. simply pouncing on some plastic spring Airsoft guns and complaining that they're "convertable."
I don't know enough about these guns to have a valid opinion as to how silly this seems. If I were to judge based on what Airsofts I have seen, I'd be laughing my @$$ off while simultaneously worrying about the increasing assification of America.
But .... there seems to be more here than what the news reports indicate .. ...
 

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Hmmmmmm. Funny you should say "increasing assification of America," Tommy. Indeed, there appears to be a lot of that disease going around.
 

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. . . a determiniation by the BATF the lower assembly could withstand the stress of firing real ammo if the rest of the weapon was completed with genuine firearm parts.
Did they do this by simply "eyeballing" the lower, or did they actually fit a working upper (and other parts) to it?

Most of the stress in an AR is contained in the upper - they (i.e., Bushmaster) even make AR lowers out of polymer - so it all depends how faithfully the airsoft lower replicates a real lower receiver.

I'd personally be astonished if the resemblance was more than skin deep, and if an airsoft lower actually accepted and functiond with an AR LPK, AR upper, etc.
 

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This thread, on another board, has detailed photos of the airsoft gun in question, especially the lower.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=80834

Note that the last pic shows the airsoft upper mated to a Colt M4 lower. If THAT works, then the reverse should work, too (real upper on the airsoft lower), and then it's just a matter of does the hammer hit the firing pin? To really work, "real" buffer and recoil spring would have to go in the buffer tube, too. The thing would work. Dunno how long, or if the full-auto feature would work, but it should be able to fire, and safely, too. I wouldn't have many (technical--legal is another matter) worries about putting one of my dedicated .22LR uppers on that airsoft lower and going shooting.

Those on that board who think an AR built up on that airsoft lower would "blow up" obviously have no idea how an AR works or is put together.

Much as I hate to admit it, ATF might actually have a point this time. One wonders how these things were allowed into the country in the first place. :?
 
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