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Could it have anything to do with training? Nah, that would be too much to ask for.
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I have one.
I like it.
But I don't love it.
I like it.
But I don't love it.
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Maybe "next generation accuracy" isn't necessary a GOOD thing. Maybe it's like talking about a Glock's "next generation craftsmanship." In other words, "good enough but certainly nothing special."
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Maybe "next generational accuracy" has to do with more and more city boys with no gun training rather than the country boys of old. Audie Murphy was a poor Texas boy who picked cotton and shot small game to feed his brothers and sisters. Sergeant York, from Tennessee, was one of eleven children and had minimal schooling because they helped provide for the family, which included hunting, fishing. My sons could all handle a rifle, shotgun and a handgun before their 10th BD. How many young fathers can say that today?
For all that R&D expense, plus the expense of changing over, I see no reason to change from the M9.
If the Army wants to have 17 rounds, instead of 15, they can just have some extended magazines made. New sights should be an easy modification, too, if desired.
This would allow the platform to be kept, with no need to retrain armorers on a new system or go to a whole new supply chain for spare parts.
If the Army wants to have 17 rounds, instead of 15, they can just have some extended magazines made. New sights should be an easy modification, too, if desired.
This would allow the platform to be kept, with no need to retrain armorers on a new system or go to a whole new supply chain for spare parts.
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There's not much of a comparison to be made, the SIG is reliable and certainly as accurate as all SIGs are but it just doesn't fit my hand like my gubmint model.
I have a M&P Compact in .45 for daily carry but my favorite is a Chip McCormick gun that Charlie tuned.
And, of course, the SIG isn't a... .45.
Polymer is for everyday and steel is for recreational shooting.
I hesitate to daily carry a gun that might need to be used for ballistic therapy and then subsequently... "lost".
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I have a couple of P320's...one in 9mm and one in .40...and I like them very much. They feel very good in my hand and I'm able to shoot them pretty well. The takedown is simple and the fact that the chassis is the only serialized part means that you can easily change frames and grip size without buying a new gun.
As a matter of fact for a while the P320 was my favorite striker-fired handgun, but then I acquired a Canik TP9SF. It's a story for a different thread, but the TP9 has really impressed me. And for about $400 with Warren Tactical sights it's quite the bargain. It certainly solves Walt's problem of not wanting an expensive attitude adjuster languishing in an evidence locker someplace.
As a matter of fact for a while the P320 was my favorite striker-fired handgun, but then I acquired a Canik TP9SF. It's a story for a different thread, but the TP9 has really impressed me. And for about $400 with Warren Tactical sights it's quite the bargain. It certainly solves Walt's problem of not wanting an expensive attitude adjuster languishing in an evidence locker someplace.
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I must admit I've never handled a 320. But, looking at the pictures, the locations of the safety & slide release puzzle me. Does one really need mutant thumbs to work both*, or is that just appearance? I'd been using 1911s for decades before handling my first Sig and the controls just seemed.......wrong.
* OK, I guess one of the digits on the hand that inserts the mag can work the slide release.
* OK, I guess one of the digits on the hand that inserts the mag can work the slide release.
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I can work it, it's just that a 1911 is more intuitive.
At my age, simpler is better.
It's also faster.
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Now this is interesting:
I googled next generation accuracy. In the first five pages, there were NO references to firearms of any kind. In fact, most of the hits didn't even have the phrase "next generation accuracy," but had something about "the accuracy of next generation" something or other.
So I tried googling "next generation accuracy" in quotes to get that exact phrase. In the first three pages, I saw two firearm-related hits--both of them stories on this gun obviously quoting the same press release.
So I officially declare that "next generation accuracy" is complete, utter, and total BS. Buzz language. Meaningless jargon. Not A Thing. If you ever hear anyone use it in a firearms context, stop the conversation immediately and ask them to define the term. Bask in the surprise and confusion! :grin::neer:
I googled next generation accuracy. In the first five pages, there were NO references to firearms of any kind. In fact, most of the hits didn't even have the phrase "next generation accuracy," but had something about "the accuracy of next generation" something or other.
So I tried googling "next generation accuracy" in quotes to get that exact phrase. In the first three pages, I saw two firearm-related hits--both of them stories on this gun obviously quoting the same press release.
So I officially declare that "next generation accuracy" is complete, utter, and total BS. Buzz language. Meaningless jargon. Not A Thing. If you ever hear anyone use it in a firearms context, stop the conversation immediately and ask them to define the term. Bask in the surprise and confusion! :grin::neer:
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"NGA" is apparently a triumph of the creative writers in the advertising agency/department. Figures.
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I don't know why you guys are confused...it's "next generation" accuracy. It's not even going to get here for a generation. We won't live to see it.
But it's gonna be awesome.
But it's gonna be awesome.
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My grand daughter may be part of that "next generation" training with one.
She's off to MEPS next week courtesy of the USMC.
She's off to MEPS next week courtesy of the USMC.
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I don't get all the hubbub?
The average GI ain't ever going to touch one of these "New Army Pistols", why the New Army considers a multitool to be a General Issue "Knife". The only folks that shall be sporting sidearms are SF or Special Warfare, so why all the concern?
The average GI ain't ever going to touch one of these "New Army Pistols", why the New Army considers a multitool to be a General Issue "Knife". The only folks that shall be sporting sidearms are SF or Special Warfare, so why all the concern?
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I think they let officers carry them because they don't trust them with rifles.
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Do you think those sidearm issued "College Boy's" realize that Uncle Sam gives the ordinary GI an "A Full-Auto Assault Rifle" just in case they have to go to "War"?
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