"But what's it FOR?"

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Snake45

Discussion Starter · Aug 11, 2004

Wow, you sure can make yourself unpopular asking Col. Cooper's famous question sometimes. Especially if you ask it of somebody who wants to build an AR-15 "pistol." In 9mm no less. I think he got upset because he had to stop and think about how silly the idea actually was.

And then there are the AR "Rooney guns," which I see have been discussed on the site here. When I was a kid we used to look forward to the JC Whitney catalog to see how much cheap junk we could buy mailorder and bolt on our hoopty old cars. Now I guess for some people Shotgun News performs the same function....

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LIProgun

· #2 · Aug 11, 2004

Gun people too often confuse "What's it for?" with "Why do you want it?"

While "Because I do!" should be an adequate answer for the latter (or at least it used to be, in our once-free country), it doesn't answer the former.

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Alarmed

· #3 · Aug 11, 2004

Yall have to be talking about the GAP?

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SpecialEd

· #4 · Aug 11, 2004

Snake45 said:
<Snip> When I was a kid we used to look forward to the JC Whitney catalog to see how much cheap junk we could buy mailorder and bolt on our hoopty old cars. <Snip>....

I used to do a lot of backpacking in the Shenndoah, Once when stopping at a gas station in Warrenton, VA we saw a car (one of the station employees) that had a chrome plumbing fixture bolted on the bumper to make it look like the car had duel exhaust... sortof...

Ed

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Joe Forte

· #5 · Aug 11, 2004

Check this bad boy out!

[IMG=left]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/Joefo/milwaukee_ar.jpg[/IMG]

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Snake45

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 11, 2004

LIProgun said:
Gun people too often confuse "What's it for?" with "Why do you want it?"

While "Because I do!" should be an adequate answer for the latter (or at least it used to be, in our once-free country), it doesn't answer the former.

(Best Ed McMahon voice): You are correct, sir!

Back in the mid '80s, Miami Vice and V ("Nazi Lizards from Space") were on TV alla time. I was newly sober and had a buttload of money and decided that life wouldn't be complete without a semiauto MAC-10 in .45. So I bought one (Stephensville closed-bolt).

Well-made, sturdy, reliable, accurate off the bench, and impressed the snot out of the neighborhood kiddies. It was also heavy, fat, impossible to shoot well from any practical position at all--in short, it would not do ANYTHING that a stock OOB Colt Commander wouldn't do except fire 30 times in a row without reloading (assuming your trigger finger didn't cramp up by then).

Call it a $400 lesson in practicality.

There are lots of guns I want, but many of them I don't need or even have any conceivable use for. This is why I own many of them in .22 (Luger, AK, Galil, PPK). I can always kill beer cans with them!

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BigMike

· #7 · Aug 11, 2004

Special tools

OK, OK, I can see that you might want to drill .223" holes in many substances, and getting a 400 yard extension bit to the job site might be a problem, but think of all the cord you'd need to plug it in!

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action barbarian

· #8 · Aug 12, 2004

special tools

You just can't see the plug in the butt end of the rifle stock.

cheers,

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BigMike

· #9 · Aug 12, 2004

Plug in butt stock.

Thanks! I always wondered what that little door was for.

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Mad Ogre

· #10 · Aug 12, 2004

I like the yellow Dewalt AR better:
[IMG=left]http://www.cavalryarms.com/galleries/CR/EricTheHun.jpg[/IMG]

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Sarge

· #11 · Aug 12, 2004

Good point...

The lust for trendy and pointless firearms (which often serve no other purpose than to impart upon the bearer the false sense of invicibility) is nowhere more apparent, than it is in law enforcement. A certain very PC agency which I deal with on a regular basis is currently wrestling with the monumental decision of what constitutes a proper "patrol rifle".

High muckety-mucks there are arguing for a .40 caliber semi-auto, and one of the arguments given in favor of it was that it "isn't as loud" as an intermediate rifle round like the 5.56mm. Pretty far-removed from reality, if you ask me.

First- if you're gonna shoot .40 caliber bullets, why not just train the troops to shoot their pistols with precision at some ridiculous distance like, say, 50 yards? Most LE outfits think 50 yards is a light-year nowadays, having been deprived of the privilege of being screamed at by a burr-headed old FTO whilst trying to hit the x-ring of a B27 at that distance, double-action. A third of that distance is about where they're training now- and we wonder why Johnny can't shoot?

Second- if things have deteriorated to the point that we are grabbing the longarms, who gives a damn how loud they are? A slug-loaded 12 doesn't exactly whisper softly, it sure is a comforting thing to have when things get ugly.

I suggested that they just get AK's, but I don't think they took me seriously. :wink:

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SpecialEd

· #12 · Aug 12, 2004

Ogre, the more pictures you post the more I'm starting to think you must live in God's country! How do like Utah as a place to live?

Ed

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