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I love how since Discovery Channel starting doing all the bike shows... I'm seeing "WEST COAST CHOPPERS" and "OCC" hats, clothes, stickers, etc all over the place. Worn by people who have never even touched a chopper, let alone ride or own one.

I've always liked choppers. I've ridden 4 different examples of the breed and each one was different from the other. That's what it's all about. Being different.
One thing about the choppers... they take a lot of work to keep up. For that reason, unless I became stinking rich, I'd never buy one.
However I do want to build one of my own.
I want it to be low maintance. I don't need any more maintance in my life - I got married for that. On my bike, I just want to be able to ride and not spend a lot of time washing and wrenching on it.
For that reason, I don't want to build my chopper with a HD engine.
I want to use a Honda power plant.
Specifically, I want to use the V-Twin engine out of a Honda Superhawk. This is a super slick race inspired biek that uses a totally sick liquid cooled 90 degree V-twin with all kinds of goodies. The engine normally rides inside a cowling for aerodynamic and the fact it doesn't need airflow over the engine to chill.
I want to build the frame for this engine keeping it in a classic West Coast chopper style. Make it strong, but light weight.
Powder Coat it flat black or satin OD green.
Keep everything on it flat toned... nothing flashy. Subtle.

Once it is done, it will be a chopper that is super fast, and light enough to handle well... and I could ride it every day and not spend half the time working on it.

I know this whole concept is inflamatory to the HD Zealots... but the rest of you guys - what do you think?
 

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I gotta agree with you about the OCC logo abuse. On the brighter side, there is more attention to motorcycling as a whole now than ever before. Funny how one television network can change how motorcycles are perceived.

There is nothing wrong with your idea. Although even a liquid cooled bike will get hot in stop and go traffic. My bike is normally at 180 degrees when riding and spikes to 215 degrees in traffic. Then the fans kick in to keep the temperature down. Once it hits 210 it starts to get a little uncomfortable on my legs. This even after wrapping the exhaust with that special heat shielding tape.

I really like the look of the Victory Vegas. There is enough Arlen Ness styling touches that make the bike stand out. They are supposed to be reliable, too and cost less than a comparable HD.
 

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Choppers look cool but....

I could never own one. No disrepect but I could never understand why someone -- in one fell swoop, so-to-speak -- would undo all the years of engineering that went into motorcycles that made them corner and stick to the road the way they do.

To each his own and that's what great about having choices!

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You talking about Harleys or Choppers?

:lol:

Think of a Chopper with some super bike go fast stuff. Super ridgid and braced front end.
It's the general style I'd go for, not an art bike like what OCC makes. Something you could ride aggressively. That's what I want to build.
Just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't be done.
 

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Maybe one of these all Americans would fit the bill. Much more functional than that art crap they put out at a lot of the custom chop shops. Pretty pricey though.

[IMG=left]http://www.confederate.com/con_web/home/wraith/prototype/fcarbside.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG=left]http://www.confederate.com/con_web/home/machine/image_doc/image02/imag02big.jpg[/IMG]

These two jap bikes might be what your looking for if they come into production.

[IMG=left]http://www.motorcycledaily.com/063004top.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG=left]http://www.motorcycledaily.com/mt10.jpg[/IMG]

This bike is running an RC51 Honda motor.

[IMG=left]http://www.vincentmotors.com/BIK/images/main_BlkEagle.jpg[/IMG]

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Nice bikes... but not one is a chopper.
I love the cafe racer type bikes... the naked sport bikes.
One of my favorites was an RD400 Daytona Special. Hell of a bike.
Rode it from Vegas to Grand Junction then to Salt Lake. And vowed I'd never make such a trip on it again.
 

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I knew a guy that rode a Honda 175 from Wilmington, DE (20 minutes south of Philadelphia) to Florida. That was 25 years ago and I think he is still vibrating...
 

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If you want a "real" chopper with a Jap engine that is useless for anything except image and driving in a straight line here is a custom Kawasaki with a 2000 cc motor.

[IMG=left]http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/newsandupdates/indy04-madkaw-f-xl.jpg[/IMG]

It is even in Ogre green.
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That's a nice chopper... but the Firehawk motor is much smaller.
996cc liquid-cooled 90° V-twin, DOHC; four valves per cylinder. It's a high reving, high output screamer as far as V-Twins go. And it's light. That's the key right there.

Now that Vegas engine would look awesome in a Chopper too... look at those clean lines. All that bike needs for me would be a different set of handlebars.

My chopper concept isn't nearly as good looking... not even as good looking as an hold shovel head mill. It would be pretty fugly... but no one would be able to have the chace to look at it very long.
 

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Mad Ogre said:
996cc liquid-cooled 90° V-twin, DOHC; four valves per cylinder. It's a high reving, high output screamer as far as V-Twins go. And it's light. That's the key right there.
Hmmm... sounds a lot like one of these :wink:

[IMG=left]http://www.amback.com/images/uploaded/ducshopmatrix3.jpg[/IMG]
 

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SpecialEd, yeah... I gotta agree with you on that one. But as I was reading Mad Ogre's description I was thinking, "Ducati...Ducati...Ducati..." When I got to the "high output screamer" part, well that was it, an identical match. :lol:

Mad Ogre, what you want... no... what you need... is a Ducati ST4s. It has the 996 motor and can carve up the twisties, yet comes with hard saddle bags and is comfortable for hundreds of miles.
 

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I'm going to be buying a bike as soon as I can... but it's none of these types...
It's going to be a Kaw KLR 650.
I'm going to ride from here up to the north coast of Alaska, and then back down to visit the mad scientist workshops at Wild West Guns... and from there go visit my Momma... in Virginia.
If I can, I'll get the Military Diesel version if it comes out to us Civies in time... if not I'll just get the military tank which holds almost 8 gallons.

Yes, I know I'm nuts.
The "Mad" bit isn't necessarily meaning "angry".
 

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Sounds like you may want to look at H-D, although you already decided it's not for you. The 1130cc V-Rod water cooled motor, and hydraulic clutch are a winning pair. Porche makes the engine, so that kinda speaks for itself. A medium to wide tire rigid frame, and a baker 6-speed, set of apes, with internal wiring. Top it with a fabricated oil tank, and a streched Sportster type fuel tank, you'd be all set. After that, hey, if it wasn't for you, the fast lane would rust!
 

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Here is a Chopper with a Ducati 900SS motor. It would approximate what a VTR1000 motor would look like without the plumbing.

[IMG=left]http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/tech/DucCust-lead-xl.jpg[/IMG]

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NOW THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

Any more info on that beast?
 
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