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A guy sent me this pic. He said it was from a trail camera in Eastern Oregon. A nice Muley buck.
 

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WHY, OH WHY, don't I ever see a "rack" like that, anywhere in CONUS??? - Just NOT lucky, I'd guess.

Before I finally took my IIB Rotthirsch in BRD, the forstmeister/I must have "looked at" at least 25-40 Hirsch over an 11 day period. = We saw a multitude of "culls", IA Capitals (that NO American jager will EVER get to take.), IIA & IB that I had NO permit for & finally (<30 minutes before last light) my Hirsch. = He just "appeared" like magic & was just THERE & standing motionless in a little clearing (that was no larger than 10x5M) at about 65M from the tree that we were sitting in.
(It's hard for me to believe that anything that big could move that silently through brush that was THAT thick but he did.)

Btw, I collected him with a rather ordinary & "well-used" looking "sporterized" 1893 Spanish Mauser in 7MM, mounting a Waffen Bennewitz 4X scope, that I bought at the RAFB Rod & Gun Club. ======> BEST 75.ooUSD that I've ever spent, too.

yours, sw
 

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I killed a lot of deer with a "sporterized" 1895 Mauser in 7MM. I think it's a very good round.
 

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Fwiw, the 7MM Mauser round was used SUCCESSFULLY to take ELEPHANT, LION & CAPE BUFFALO by WDM "Karamoja" Bell, using 173 grain FMJ military ball.

NOT something that I would try, even once, but he said that it was "adequate at close range" for all those beasts.
(I once saw that particular rifle, when the NRA Museum was in DC & it looked like "nothing special". = Just a cheap, "cut-down" & more or less sporterized Spanish "Scorpion". = The famous author, Robert C. Ruark, I believe owned the rifle at that time.)

My "sporterized" Mauser was a veteran of the Spanish-American War that was "re-done" into a "sporting rifle" sometime in the 1910-20s. The scope was made circa 1930.
(I usually loaded mine with a German-made, long, slim, pencil-like bullet, at a "moderate velocity". = That load is, imVho, A KILLER on most anything out to 200M, provided the hunter does his part.)

yours, sw
 

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Yeah, I knew about Bell and the elephant hunting he did with the 7MM. I paid $40.00 for my 1895 at a local sporting goods store, no scope on mine. Of course that was many years ago, about forty to be exact. I used Remington Core Lokt 175 grain ammo in mine because that's what was available around here then and I didn't reload in those days. It too was a long bullet and deadly on our local deer.
 

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bearcat6,

Fwiw, I bought my 7mm "sporter" in February 1970, not long after I arrived in BRD.

My "usual fodder" in those days, of well over 4 decades ago, was (I think I remember) a German load of a JSP bullet of about 190 grains at about 2250FPS.
(I never shot a single animal that didn't SOON expire, if I did my part with shot placement.)

yours, sw
 
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