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Friends,

I just cannot find a Tyler's T-Grip or similar product to fit my ROUND-BUTT Model 12 "snubbie" here in the city/county, at less than a "highway robbery" price.
(Because a website advertises something that is "in stock" does NOT mean that they actually have any, NOW.)

Fwiw, I've found some at 3-5 times "MSRP" & I'm NOT interested in being "ripped-off". =====> T-grips are neither rare nor are they "collector's items".

IF anyone here has a used grip adapter that's "surplus to your needs" PLEASE advise me by PM.

THANKS, sw
 

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...to take a look at the very similar polymer grip adapters offered by BK Grips.
FITTING FOR K, L and N FRAMES: The larger adapter was made for square butt K frames. The prototypers found that it also fit round butt K frames, and both square and round butt N frames. L frame guns use K frame grips, so they should be taken care of as well. (X frame shooters - well, I assume you're not using Magna grips, so these are not for you.) You can check this thread for for the discussion that accompanied the initial testing of the K frame adapters on various guns, and for photos of the fit on various K and N frame guns: BK Grip Adapters - Square Butt K Frame prototypers wanted

Two customers have fitted the K adapter to a Model 12, the lightweight K frame model whose frontstrap is 2mm narrower than "regular" K frames. Both report that the adapter fits just fine.
I don't know how much difference there is on the front strap of a square-butt and a round-butt K-frame revolver but I note that many of my aluminum T-Grips are less than a perfect fit - despite being the right model - and that the BK adapters may leave a bit of room for fitting.

At this point, the only "spare" T-Grip that I've got is a No. 1- for J-frame revolvers made after 1955. :(
 

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spwenger,

Fwiw, several months ago at the SAXET gun-show, we tried fitting several BK Grips to a friend's Model 10 S&W SB. - NONE of those adapters fit properly & I'm NOT "excited by" paying 25.oo plus S&H for a "simple accessory" that I have to spend a lot of time "fitting".
(I have NO way of knowing if the adapters that we tried were typical of the quality of BK Grips or not.)

yours, satx
 

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Fwiw, several months ago at the SAXET gun-show, we tried fitting several BK Grips to a friend's Model 10 S&W SB. - NONE of those adapters fit properly & I'm NOT "excited by" paying 25.oo plus S&H for a "simple accessory" that I have to spend a lot of time "fitting".
(I have NO way of knowing if the adapters that we tried were typical of the quality of BK Grips or not.)
I've never tried them and just picked up the link from Mike de Bethencourt's SnubTraining.com website.

I linked BK Grips on my own site's Links page but, if I get any more reports indicating that they've not dealt with the problem you cite, I'll remove that link.
 

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spwenger,

" ----- I'll remove that link." = Understood. as I said, "your experience may vary", as we only tried the adapters that the gun-show vendor actually HAD "on his table".

Note: Personally I never tried one of the "old school" Tyler's adapters that didn't fit properly BUT I just could have "just been lucky".

yours, sw
 

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Dear Gentlemen: I hope this note finds you well. Mr. Wenger was kind enough to point out to me your postings regarding the BK Grip Adapters. I have some experience with them as well as the Tyler T Adapters that I hope you will let me share one or two thoughts with you. I have used the J- and K-frame BK Adapters now for several years. I found the the J-frame adapters were a pinch too long for the round butt j-frames but believe that the fellows at BK is attending to this. I did not find that the BK adapters fit the Charter Arms J-frame sized snubs very well but BK never offered them for the Charter Arms snubs. I tried them on only as a test. I have had great luck with the BK adapters on nearly all my round butt K-frame S&W snubs. I have also had great luck with them on the narrow frame m12 K-frame round butt S&W snubs. Oddly I have slightly less luck with the square butt m12's but those are so infrequently run across I think it is almost not worth noting. Another positive experience I have had with the BK is with some of the Colt D-frame Cobras and Agents. Even though the BK was not offered for the D-frame snubs they have been a joy to work with. I am sorry that some of the fellows had trouble fitting the adapters to their m10 K-frames. I have seen similar J- D- and K- frame guns have just enough frame variations that from gun-to-gun the same set stocks will fit one gun but not another. I am not suggesting that that is the experience that the other fellows had, only that that has happened to me once or twice over the years. On an aside I do love to work with all the Tyler T adapters but on rare occasions the delivery time on Tyler adapters can run from very short to very long. No disrespect to Tyler meant. I mention it only because with the additional option of the BK adapters I can give the shooter/students a choice of tools and let them factor in the possible deliver time. Overall though, when I have a choice I am currently recommending the BK adapters. Though they have a more workman-like appearance they are; slightly less expensive item, are always delivered in short order and the addition of a second set of tabs give then a huge advantage in the firmly secured department. This is of courses only one fellows opinion but I hope it is of some very small value. Sincerely yours, Michael de Bethencourt [email protected].
 

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Another positive experience I have had with the BK is with some of the Colt D-frame Cobras and Agents. Even though the BK was not offered for the D-frame snubs they have been a joy to work with.
...which of BK's S&W adapters you have found fit the D-frame Colts.

Inasmuch as the third-series DS's/second-series Cobras came with the "oversize" grips, I assume that you're referring to the earlier models. Have you seen any difference in the fit of the BK adapters between those earlier models with the full-length and the shorter grip frames?

Inquiring minds want to know - particularly before buying and adapter that may not fit. :)
 

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I wouldn't think a grip adapter would be too difficult to make, out of epoxy putty and a piece of thin sheetmetal. You could make it to fit your hand/grip (and eye, too) exactly.
 

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I was a fan of Tyler "T" grips and mourn their passing. My Model 19 that I carried for years still has them.

I haven't done it recently, but you might try e-bay
 

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Michael de Bethencourt,

1st, WELCOME ABOARD.

Also, thanks for your comments.

yours, sw
 

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Charlie Petty,

The last real/used Tyler's T-grip that I bid upon on ebay.com brought about 3X retail. = It was for an N-frame S&W.
(I'm not interested in paying "highway robbery" prices.)

yours, sw
 
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