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A fella on another forum totally unrelated to guns acquired this rifle just recently after his father passing.The father got this rifle back in the 50's(?) and never shot it so it looks.It has some markings on the stock that seem familiar but not,the CSA got me wondering.I think the having the box adds itself to the rifle lending credibilty to an offical arsenal rebuild?


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What you have is a Carbine that was bought from the US Army Director of Civilian Marksmanship, (DCM) program in the late 50's or early 60's.

This was a US Army administered program to provide surplus firearms and ammo to people who might be potential recruits in time of war.
They also provided rifles and ammo to gun clubs that were affiliated with the DCM program and ran a junior shooters club.
Obviously the idea was the juniors would be drafted into the service when they turned 18 or older.

The DCM was run out of an office in Washington with a US Army officer "in command" with all civilian workers.
Rifles and ammo were sold only to NRA members.
When rifles or ammo were surplussed, a notice was put in the American Rifleman magazine telling you what was available, and you sent in an application.
It was first come first served.
Rifles and ammo were shipped from whatever arsenal had them available when your application was processed.

The DCM was replaced by the current Civilian Marksmanship Program, (CMP).

Carbines were primarily shipped from Red River Arsenal, and were shipped in the early days by REA Express, later by UPS.
I got my Carbine in 1965, shipped via UPS.
It came in a similar box, cost was $20.00. That was $17.50 for the Carbine, $2.50 UPS shipping.

Carbines were in "serviceable, safe to fire" condition, and were almost always Carbines that had been rebuilt or upgraded during their service time.
When a Carbine was put through an official rebuild program, the arsenal doing the rebuild stamped the arsenal ID stamp on the stock. If it was put through two rebuild programs, the second re-builder added their stamp.
There were no inspectors stamps added to Carbines after they were manufactured, only arsenal stamps for official rebuilds, so CSA is not an inspectors stamp.
If a Carbine was just repaired while in service, Ordnance put no stamps on them, since it wasn't an official rebuild program.

A DCM Carbine with the original arsenal shipping box would have high collector interest. The box makes it worth much more, and if you have the shipping documents that would add even more.
The documents were considered "Proof of sale" from US Government to civilian ownership.
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One way to get more info is to contact Bruce Canfield.
He's THE expert on American military arms and is an editor for the National Rifleman. He usually has an article in the magazine every month or so.
I'm sure he can tell you all about the stock stamps.

You can contact him on his web site:

Bruce N. Canfield - Gun Collector, Gun Collections, Author, Collector, and Historian of post-Civil War U.S. Military Weapons

If he won't respond there, if you're an NRA member (and shame on you if you aren't) as a member service, you can send a SASE with ONE question to the American Rifleman Dope Bag and they will answer the question.
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