[phantom4570]

Tonight's episode of NCIS was about a dead Navy Commander, a fourteen year veteran of the navy. IIRC the most common grade at twenty years of service is lieutenant commander. Does the navy promote anyone to Commander in fourteen years?

 

[stand watie]

phantom4570,

as it is wartime, you might find a LCR (who is an aviator) at 14 years of service.

btw, i knew a navy vet from WWII, when i was a child, who was promoted to full Commander, USNR, at 24. - he has a DOUBLE ACE & former Flying Tiger.

also, unless it's been "aquired" & "carried away" by somebody since i was stationed there, there is a sign in the Ft Bliss O Club bar that reads: Officers under the age of 21 will not be served liquor, including Colonels.
(that sign always made me smile.)

yours, sw

 

[Skeptic49]

Tonight's episode of NCIS was about a dead Navy Commander, a fourteen year veteran of the navy. IIRC the most common grade at twenty years of service is lieutenant commander. Does the navy promote anyone to Commander in fourteen years?

They are rare, a heck of a hard charger, as we called them in the US Army. Trouble is the aviator types I have as Customers tend to look younger than their ages.

The Army promotes the fastest but they cut off and discharge more officers at all levels. You have to have a lot of extra platoon leaders..

Allegedly spooks jump quickly to Major (O-4) and then pretty much stop, being plugged into the system where needed.

Geoff
Who has no first hand knowledge, but it was always a topic for discussion among the NCOs back in the 70's.

 

[IrishCop]

Don't know how it's done nowadays, nor how it's done in the Navy.

In the USAF, back in my day, an officer could (and usually did) make Captain (O-3) 4 years. Major (O-4) could be had in 8-10 years pretty easy. Lt Colonel (O-5), USAF equivilent to Navy Commander could be done at 14, but was rare. 'Course that was peacetime except for Grenada/Panama/1st Gulf War, which were pretty short "conflicts". Really more missions than wartime.

 

[TommyGunn]

The Army promotes the fastest......

George Armstrong Custer was a Bigadier General at 23 and a Major General at 24. Of course this was during a major war .... and when the Confederacy had most of the good officers.
Oh .... those were brevets, BTW.:mrgreen:

 

[bearcat6]

When I was in Germany we had a lot of senior NCOs who had been officers in WWII, Captains, Majors. When the war ended they reverted to their permanent rank.

 

[threefeathers]

When I was in Germany we had a lot of senior NCOs who had been officers in WWII, Captains, Majors. When the war ended they reverted to their permanent rank.

Yes, and they retired as their highest rank. One of my Plt Sgts had a lot of chest cabbage, asked me if I was coming to his retirement ceremony, I did, he retired as a LTC. I was shocked, then learned he had made it during WW2, then again in Korea, reverted to SFC for final two years.

 

[Skeptic49]

Happened in Viet Nam too. I had an old Drill Sergeant who was my First Sergeant in West Germany. He had both EERs and OERs every six months. He was a Captain O-3 in the USAR.

Geoff
Who notes the old US Army, Army of the United States, dichotomy back in the old days.
Marching to chow, "RA Drill Sergeant, US Drill Sergeant, NG Drill Sergeant!"