No more or less then you can verify the Strasbourg Tests but I will document at least one source anyway.DeanSpeir said:
Hey, hey, hey! I realize that you're still smarting about those freakin' goats, but we have two separate and distinct issues here. Let us not confuse them.Ed said:No more or less then you can verify the Strasbourg Tests…
I'm ot smarting over the goats, what's there to smart about? Actually I had never heard of the goat tests before last week.DeanSpeir said:
I couldn't agree with you more! One of my own pet peeves. We can't charge "the other side" with lies and exaggerations if we do the same. We must be circumspect in our cause.DeanSpeir said:
Yes and I list a couple more books and a couple History Channel shows BUT, in all honesty each referrence comes back to Ian Hogg. SO just how valid is that? (I have a lot of respect for Ian Hogg and put more weight in his opinions and assertions just as I do yours and Charlies, etal at TGZ and AMBACK)DeanSpeir said:You have provided exactly that which I requested… thank you.
DeanSpeir said:As for Strasbourg, my statements remain:
- I have never seen their validity successfully discredited… anywhere.[/*:3vr2duc4]
DeanSpeir said:[*]It took me but a brief time to learn that not only could they have taken place, where they probably took place, and that there exists a not-so-secret basis for the origins of such a test protocol.[/*:3vr2duc4]
[*]Whether you believe they happened, or didn't happen, the abstract is what it is, and nothing more… a summary of a report observing the laboratory-contained reactions of 611 lung-shot Alpine goats.[/*:3vr2duc4]
I guess my point is I can't prove or disprove somethings any more than you can.DeanSpeir said:Now, Ed, what are you suggesting that I need to defend or verify?
I suspect that this is your interpretation of what I said about The Strasbourg Tests.Ed said:I made a phone call and got some info but I can't tell you who, what, when or where?
That's the way I always heard it.Daniel Watters said:Hitler is credited in most popular works as the source of the designation Sturmgewehr. The official redesignation from MP44 to StG44 occured in December 1944. Of course, the Maschinenpistole (MP) designation was itself a temporary ruse to trick Hitler as to the true nature of what was previously designated the Maschinenkarabiner (MKb).
They occasionally get a howler themselves. My favorite was the "Real CON Air" episode regarding the federal prisoner transfer planes/"airline". While showing a close-up of a specific inmate's profile, the narrator ominously intoned that the abberrant violent tendencies of some of the miscreants included being willing to "kill Leos", like the astrological sign. Silly law-enforcement printouts ARE ALL TO OFTEN STILL IN ALL CAPS, SO THE REFERENCE ON THE PAGE/MONITOR (can't remember which) DIDN'T LOOK LIKE AN ACRONYM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.I saw it on the History channel?