Actually, I have; I was just trying to spark some commentary.Charlie Petty said:Obviously neither of you have read my book... :x
I didn't know anyone was making them again and original- transferrable- examples are quite rare but that certainly looks correct. I always wanted one.
I've got a bit of experience with them... the factory designation was USA HD-MS.
There was something about them on the old board when Pat Rogers was around. Apparently some were rebuilt for the Marines... MEU-SOC and my suspicion is that they are or were- used in the sandbox.
When I get back from the Shot show I can tell some of my experiences with them.
They came to public notice when Gary Powers was shot down over Russia and his survival kit was put on public display in Moscow and photos appeared in U.S. papers.
A .22 rifle with 26 inch barrel and standard velocity ammo is darn close to "silent." 25 and 24 inch barrels aren't much louder, but a little.IrishCop said:One of those would be pretty good for taking care of rabbits and squirrels in the back yard. Don't think I could sell the Mrs on the price, though!
Waitaminit! I SAW whatshisname in "Point of Impact" use a .22 rifle with a pop-bottle suppressor take down several Bad Guys with head shots from at least 100yd, standing in a skiff, no less! Whaddaya say to that, huh???stand watie said:Retmsg,
YEP. you are 100% correct = i "played that game", long ago, in "a place & time far away" for "serious social purposes".
otoh, in CONUS that "combination" is called an UN-licensed suppressed weapon. - ALSO, a .22 subsonic is NOT really suitable for IMMEDIATELY killing our BIG (some are nearly 2 pounds, dressed) fox squirrels & i don't much enjoy (at 64YY) "chasing them down" through the woods or losing them "into a hollow tree"!
Markie Mark as Bob Lee Swagger. 'Nuff said. :lol:shep854 said:Waitaminit! I SAW whatshisname in "Point of Impact" use a .22 rifle with a pop-bottle suppressor take down several Bad Guys with head shots from at least 100yd, standing in a skiff, no less! Whaddaya say to that, huh???
While .22 airguns can hit harder, a "magnum" .177 airgun like an RWS M48 will cleanly take cottontails out to at least 30 yards using RWS "Superdome" pellets, which tend to shoot more accurately than any of the pointed pellets. At 12 or so yards, it will even kill an armadillo. I doubt squirrels are any tougher . . . in fact, the kill charts in my old Beeman catalog suggest it takes around 3 ft-lbs to kill a squirrel, starling, or pigeon, and 5 for a rabbit. (8 for a jackrabbit.)Snake45 said:A .22 spring air rifle 750-850 fpm, with pointed pellets (NOT wadcutters) will kill squirrels nicely out to at least 10-15 yards, maybe more. Makes a sound about like an aluminum screen door slamming shut. Again, no one will associate this sound with "gun," especially if it comes from inside the house. :wink:
http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/10/ ... treet.htmlPicture the scene. You are a cop. You and your partner have pulled off on a quiet residential street and parked with your windows down to do some paperwork.
Suddenly a large man on a huge black and chrome cruiser, dressed in jeans, a torn t-shirt flapping in the breeze, and wearing one leather glove, moving at probably 80mph on one wheel, and screaming bloody murder roars by and with all his strength throws a live squirrel grenade directly into your police car.
I heard screams. They weren't mine...