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lay dying on his bathroom floor as new girlfriend, 18 year old Ginger Alden, best friend Joe Esposito and others tried to help him. It was to no avail. The 42 year old, 250 pound overgrown kid who had risen to gargantuan proportions in American culture, as well as in his own body, no more the swivel hipped 170 pound truck driver that wowed them at Sun Studios, breathed his last.

That was before my first marriage tanked, and the car accident that would ruin my possible career as a professional athlete occurred. Man, I'm old. I was the same age as Elvis was when in the year of my birth he exploded onto the American music scene with three monster hits.

It was fun while it lasted. Great music, stupid but somewhat funny movies, except for three or four that were really, really good, like Flaming Star, and oh, those clothes!!!

And today, he is a fond memory in American culture, still popular, still making people happy with his music.

And I'm an old goat with a a bad neck, two creaky hips and two shaky knees. Hey, maybe I'm loosey, goosey enough to shake like he did:

Ah said, shake, rattle, and roll, shake, rattle and roll, . . .








HELP!!! I'VE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP!!! :eek:mg:



Uh oh, I'm gonna lay here and die just like he did. Hey Fernando, send somebody to take care of my cat and my snake. :D
 

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Uh oh, I'm gonna lay here and die just like he did. Hey Fernando, send somebody to take care of my cat and my snake.
Which should be fed to which? Or should we just let them feed on your body? :twisted: :twisted:
 

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I like Elvis. The Pre-Vegas jump suit guy... Before the fame when to his head.
 

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I like 'em both, the older Elvis better. It wasn't the fame that went to his head. It was a lot of Dilaudid, Demerol, Percodan, Placidyl, Elavil, etc. He was a messed up kid right from the start. The fame and the money only let him remain an immature, psychologically screwed up guy, rather than growing out of it.
 

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At least he was a cigar smoker......

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Would that it were true Cigar Man, but Elvis wouldn't know a real cigar from a hog's ass. Notwithstanding that he's one of my all-time favorite celebrities, still he smoked crappy, imitation cigars with familiar names, the kind that come in cellophane wrapped small boxes and don't even have much real tobacco in them. The tobacco in Elvis' "cigars" was at best grade C.
 

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We went to Graceland a few years ago, it was something I don't quite no how to describe except tastless. But then I have to remember he remodeled it in the 70's & I understand.

Elvis was basically a big kid that everybody was scared to say NO to. He was one of the most famous people in the world, but a prisoner of that fame.
 

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I don't know about that "prisoner of fame" thing. That's an idea that's been bandied about plenty regarding him and a lot of other celebrities who meet tragic and early endings. You're a prisoner of your own choices, especially when you get to be 42 years old. Elvis lived a very, very nice life, especially by the standards of where I come from, and where he came from.
 

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Thats true, he made his own choices. But, I can't imagine not being able to walk into a movie theatre or a Kentucky Fried Chicken without being mobbed.

For alot of years, I believed he faked his death to get out of the spotlight. I changed my mind only when Lisa Marie married Michael Jackson. If the King were alive, he never would have let that happen.
 

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Oh yeah, if he HAD been alive, methinks perhaps Michael might not be.

And as for not being able to go out without being recognized, Bill O'Reilly has often made the point that while Elvis felt trapped by that fame, he also couldn't bring himself to go out without his trademark clothes, cape and all. You'd be surprised how well some of the world's most famous people can disguise themselves. It's not that hard.

It's one thing to have to have the bodyguards around, but all he had to do was wear a loose, ratty looking t-shirt, a pair of glasses with DIFFERENT frames than the ones his fans were used to, and perhaps a plain pair of pants or Bermuda shorts and regular old tennis shoes. Put all that together, smush a floppy hat (not the pimp hats that he and I used to wear!!!) down around your head and you're good to go. But nooooooo, God forbid that The King should be caught dead in anything less than all his finery!!! He's got to go out with his best threads on, riding around in all too conspicuous vehicles, etc.

Having been around a lot of small theater group people and some famous showbiz types as well, there's no difference between the no-names and the famous ones. I've also known some no-names who did go on to be famous. When they're alone they walk down the street hoping that nobody will recognize them, but cringing after walking two blocks and discovering no one has recognized them yet. There is a hypocrisy that goes with being that big of a star, and as much as I loved Elvis, he was no different. As much as he might have been "trapped" by his fame, he would have died if he had gone a week of his life without being recognized and fawned over.

They're all the same, none different. This is not to say he wasn't generous or any of those other things that we all admire him for, but he was a consummate superstar. If he was a prisoner of his fame, it wasn't so much because he couldn't go out without being recognized. It was because people like him are afraid to go out and NOT be recognized.
 

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I don't know, maybe it wa just a thing of his. I guess you are right.

Troy Gentry of country duo Montgomery-Gentry walked into a shop I was in the other day to buy a new bow & accesories. He wasn't even recognizable. It was only after the deal was consummated did anybody find out who he was. Just a good old boy. Kix Brooks was in the shop a few days before. He was the same way.

I met John Michael Montgomery & his brother Eddie, the other half of the above mentioned duo a couple years ago at a shop near their farm in Kentucky. They were no different than any of us other ******** in the store.

So yea, I see your point. He could have easily moved to the country & been able to come & go as he pleased without being mobbed. He chose his lifestyle.
 

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Sure, and Elvis was really no different either, just regular people. But he didn't have to go out like he was dressed to go onstage. He was a really weird, messed up guy from the time he was very young. Being a lonely, melodramatic, incredibly talented superstar who died young was actually a perfect door for someone like him to walk through. It's a shame to us, but he had a nice life, and he's still making us happy.

And on a rather profound note, I told a lot of people after he died that his life was a metaphor for this country, and that we had better watch our asses, because we had collectively fallen prey to what he had fallen prey to as an individual. I think I've seen a lot of that come true, because we are nearly finished because of decadence and immorality.

I also told some people back in '82 that Arnold could be president someday, and now an amendment just might go through someday to create that possibility. Having known him a little from 1973-83, those of us who did are not the least bit surprised that he went on to become a rich businessman, successful movie star and Governor of Kaliforniya. He too has fulfilled his destiny.
 

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Favorite Elvis

He was a breath of ozone-pungent air on the music scene at a time when the pop charts were dominated by eminently listen-able tunes like Nelson Riddle's "Lisbon Antigua" and Les Baxter's "Poor People of Paris." About the most daring songs one one would hear on the airwaves was The Cheers' "Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots" and "Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley and The Comets, and that was primarily because of the natural association with Brando's and Marvin's The Wild One two years earlier and that "sordid" inner city flick about JDs (as we used to call them), The Blackboard Jungle.

Then came Elvis and the Sun recordings with Scotty and Bill, and this boy rocked as no one had ever rocked before.

Wow!

My life was changed on the spot… and I'd never seen, or even heard about, those "gyrating hips."

And then, just as quickly, it went downhill when RCA Victor got a hold of him, added The Jordanaires, and the rest is mostly crap compared to the early songs!

Sure, there were occasional goodies like "Heartbreak Hotel", "Don't Be Cruel" (good guitar lick there at the beginning) and "Suspicious Minds," but the "native Presley" was never equaled.

All Time Top Elvis Presley Recordings:
  1. Blue Moon Of Kentucky[/*:2zd48ubk]
  2. Mystery Train[/*:2zd48ubk]
  3. I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone[/*:2zd48ubk]
 

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Oh man, Suspicious Minds, I think my all time favorite with Kentucky Rain bringing a close second.

The thing about Elvis, he could sing anything & make it sound natural, whether it was rock, sould, country or gospel. Hell, he probably could have done opera.

I think the most telling story on the downfall of Elvis was when Barbara Streisand wanted him to do A Star is Born with her & he was jacked about it, & then the Colonel made him turn it down. He might of had a chance at an Oscar, but the Colonel screwed Elvis for his own benefit.

I can't really imagine another person having as big an impact on the music world as Elvis did.

And Bloof, you are right. I can see a President Arnny in the future. Not sure I would vote for him because he is not really pro gun, but he would be different & might be a breath of fresh air. Can you imagine Tom Daschle being called a "girlie man"?
 
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