[CaptainGyro]

"New Canadian Rifle" sounded like an oxymoron when I first typed it, but it appears that Canada has re-invented the Tavor. The rail is powered, has a data connection, and can accommodate 12 gauge or 40mm:

Defence Research and Development Canada | News | The evolution of the smart gun

 

[WaltGraham]

I immediately thought M41A Pulse Rifle when I saw that.

And 10MM explosive-tipped caseless ammo...

 

[Kevin Gibson]

Maybe they can get it to work. We dropped the idea with the AICW when we realized that we'd never be able to make it cost effective. Some small nation actually has something like the AICW deployed, but I can't remember who. I do recall they're having a lot of issues with it and that they have scaled back it's deployment to select units only. I wanna say it was a Pacific rim nation, Indonesia, Singapore...one of them.

All of the technology is doable if they're willing to work it all out. The concept is sound. But economically, the ammunition for the grenade launcher is horrendously expensive, and the weapons themselves would be cost prohibitive. I believe when the US was developing the AICW we were paying around $600.00 for our M16A2's, and they estimated the AICW would be $25,000.00 per copy. That's a monumental expense.

 

[TommyGunn]

*SIGH!* My hopes for a working version of ▼, delayed yet again.

 

[Diamondback]

I'd be more impressed if people would acknowledge that bullpups are COMPLETELY unusable to us In Our Right Minds (read: "left handed") unless purpose-built for lefties and thus equally useless to our Long Standing Historical Oppressors The Righthanded, and that the proportion of us In Our Right Minds in the overall population is RISING, and thus this is going to be an issue that NEEDS to be addressed.

In short, less flashy doodads, more focus on practical things like figuring out how to design a common standard receiver that can be flipped between left or right ejection.

 

[Snake45]

They lost me at "smart gun" in the headline.

I don't want or need a "smart gun." I'm smart. I want a stupid gun that does exactly what I tell it to do.

Besides which, any gun that relies on electricity in any way is a really stupid idea.

 

[t-star]

never looked at a TAVOR , have you, diamondback?- i'm full lefty- left hand and left eye dom- you just throw in a left handed bolt, change the position of a few plates and she's fully left handed- the mods are on youtube- all you need is a screwdriver- I've been in this game since 65 and have shot most everything, and that includes the styr aug and the bushmaster arm pistol- I would suggest that you have been ill-informed or not shown properly how to operate from the left hand side- the only gun I have legitimate troubles with the is right hand bolt-then have to reach across the action with the left hand and use the heel side of the left hand- i'm greatful( forgive the spelling) to familiarization technicians who spent hours with us before issuing the weapon to the field- I wish all gun owners had to go through the same procedures

 

[Diamondback]

OK, I'll concede I was a little behind the times on Tavor handability. Most previous bullpups tended to right-eject right into the area of lefty face, as I understood it.

Let me state for the record I meant no belittling of your countrymen or of Canadian engineering--John C. Garand was a Canuck, after all.

 

[t-star]

none taken- I don't know how many " gomers" I've instructed over the years that have the same fault with conventional weapons- most of the time the fault was with placing the face too near the ejection port instead of back over the magazine well on a bullpup or on the cheekplate where it's supposed to be- ie "climbing " the stock- this falls under poor instruction, nothing to do with gun design- I don't remember on the bushmaster, the conversion to left on the aug was simply moving the ejection port cover to the opposite side- or at least it was on the prototype - same deal with the French trumpet( I've actually done it on both) - with the tavor you have to change bolts as the ejector is on the wrong side- supposedly

 

[CaptainGyro]

I don't want or need a "smart gun." I'm smart. I want a stupid gun that does exactly what I tell it to do.

Did it jump out at anyone else that fifty years ago you could have substituted "woman" for "gun" in this sentence?

We've evolved.

 

[WaltGraham]

Did it jump out at anyone else that fifty years ago you could have substituted "woman" for "gun" in this sentence?

We've evolved.

Why 50 years ago... ? :bolt:

 

[CaptainGyro]

Oh Walt...stand in the corner.

 

[WaltGraham]

Oh Walt...stand in the corner.

I've been sentenced to snowblower duty this morning.

Only when that's completed do I get to go to the gun show.

 

[t-star]

I have the Armstrong snow THROWER-also known as a shovel- typically we get 3 feet when it does snow, although it can get as much as 6-9 feet if the conditions are right-the ploughs come though and you have to tunnel to get through to the streets at times- I wish I had some of the chu-li boys here to dig me out- you dig in 3 phases- you remove the first foot, ( which is where the heavy wet stuff is) then the second( compressed) and then the third- which is a mix of ice and snow crystals- then you move ahead about a foot and repeat

 

[Kevin Gibson]

I'd be more impressed if people would acknowledge that bullpups are COMPLETELY unusable to us In Our Right Minds (read: "left handed") unless purpose-built for lefties and thus equally useless to our Long Standing Historical Oppressors The Righthanded, and that the proportion of us In Our Right Minds in the overall population is RISING, and thus this is going to be an issue that NEEDS to be addressed.

In short, less flashy doodads, more focus on practical things like figuring out how to design a common standard receiver that can be flipped between left or right ejection.

The AUG has ejection ports on either side. Just rotate the bolt and move the ejection port cover to the other side and it's a left hand rifle.

 

[William R. Moore]

I skimmed my way through the linked article. One phrase that jumped out at me was the "abillity to interface with command and control" elements.

That kind of translates to someone up the food chain trying to move grunts like chess pieces. It also brings visions of permission switches to fire.

Whole thing strikes me as excessively complex and the sort of thing people with grant money dream up. Also reminds me of a conversation many years ago with a gent from Los Alamos when they first started thinking about "smart guns". They were very impressed with the number of repititions of the "don't screw with my sidearm" message.

 

[Kevin Gibson]

I skimmed my way through the linked article. One phrase that jumped out at me was the "abillity to interface with command and control" elements.

That kind of translates to someone up the food chain trying to move grunts like chess pieces. It also brings visions of permission switches to fire.

Whole thing strikes me as excessively complex and the sort of thing people with grant money dream up. Also reminds me of a conversation many years ago with a gent from Los Alamos when they first started thinking about "smart guns". They were very impressed with the number of repititions of the "don't screw with my sidearm" message.

Those things have been in service for quite some time. When I reviewed the Cornershot, one of the features it has is the ability to transmit what's coming through the camera back to a receiver. And SWAT teams have remote cameras they put on extendable poles to look in precarious places that can transmit to receivers. Lots of other systems, pretty much anything the military uses that has a camera has the ability to transmit the images.

But having such a thing on an individual infantry rifle, that's a little disturbing.

 

[shep854]

"One phrase that jumped out at me was the "abillity to interface with command and control" elements.

That kind of translates to someone up the food chain trying to move grunts like chess pieces. It also brings visions of permission switches to fire."--Walt Graham
Which in turn reminded me of this...:bigidea:

 

[William R. Moore]

Wasn't there something like that in The Empire Strikes Back?

 

[shep854]

When I first saw the thread title, my first thought was the new rifle CZ is custom-building for the Canadian market:
Cz958 Review: Bringing the Cold War into the 21st Century - The Firearm Blog
Video review: