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Okay, I bought something new - a CZ-75 Pcr. It's part of my seemingly unending attempt to get a house-and-carry 9mm semi-auto. It's harder than I thought; sometimes I think it's as hard as finding the holy grail...


I'll function test it for a couple of hundred rounds Tuesday, then order and try putting in some parts from Cajun Gunworks - reduced reach trigger, lighter hammer spring, slightly lighter trigger return spring, and maybe a couple of others. This is kind of a big strep for me, since, before the Glock, I'd never had an automatic whose parts I might be willing to replace - there's a fair chance I'll be taking them to a gunsmith in a sack...


The CZ75 Pcr is close to the size of a Browning Hi-Power, and since I like the Browning, I thought I'd give it a try. (I don't want to carry the Browning for a couple of unrelated reasons.) It was kind of an accident - I was talking to CZ Customer Service and happened to mention I was retired military and the guy mentioned I was eligible for a military/police special purchase. So, anyone who's in those categories can talk to CZ about the purchase of the models they're interested in - I'll withhold the purchase price and let you get it from them, but it's a significant savings.

My hands are broad, but my fingers are short, and the factory springs on the CZ are plenty stout - I wouldn't be able to carry it in this factory condition, unless I fired the double action stroke with my middle finger. Other than that, it's a nice piece. The grind lines are straight on both the aluminum alloy frame and the steel slide. I had read to expect internal machining that resembled dremelwork, but that's not true - it's nice and smooth. The grips are rubber-like and have a nice ledge to rest my shooting thumb on. The DA stroke I estimate to be somewhere above 15 pounds, the SA is a little draggy but acceptable, and I estimate it to be about six pounds.

Now, since I never believe a gun review unless it has some dimensions not mentioned in the press release, here are a few:

Trigger reach -
1. Half-cock, relaxed at full extension - 3.043" (surprising me - I'd read 3.0");
2. Half-cock with slack out before starting firing pressure - 2.78";
3. Another measure of trigger reach at half cock, using a tape measure around the backstrap and trigger relaxed - 7-9/16";
4. Tape measure around the trigger and backstrap at half cock with take-up slack removed - 7";

Height -
5. Slide to lanyard ring - 5.026";
6. Sight to lanyard ring - 5.254"; (I generally measure to the slide, since that's the height figure constraint that determines how the grips conceal, as the sight itself isn't in my leather holster.)

Length -
7. Beavertail to recoil spring rod - 7-5/16".

There you have it, so far. Just don't expect me to post pics of my group sizes...
 

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Agreed. The slide riding inside the frame does make for a more "compact", for lack of a better word, upper half. And the grip is very Hi-Power like.

The trigger reach for me is just too much. 'Course back when I had mine, I didn't know enough to look for a way to shorten the trigger reach reach. Oh, and the inter web wasn't really set up for shopping yet. :)

I think you're gonna enjoy your new pistol. Keep us posted.
 

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I really like those, they feel great in your hand and the grip frame is such that they handle recoil VERY well. My ONLY complaint and it’s really just a little one, is that to get that pistol with an aluminum frame, you have to have it with the decocker; the traditional CZ-75 safety isn’t an option.

And one other minor inconvenience, there are no night sights available for them that I’m aware of. Now that’s not that big of a deal for me, I’m a gunsmith; so I can just make my own sights and send them in to have tritium vials put in.

But that pistol is light, has good magazine capacity, is UBER reliable, and just a joy to shoot.


CZ just makes straight up great pistols!

I've always lusted after a first year "short rail" CZ75.
 

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Kevin,

I know Matt Mink fits Meprolights; are they a problem?

I don't care for the CZ half-jellybean safety, so don't mind that that it's missing. For this purpose, prefer the traditional DA/SA - they're becoming more rare now with the advent of striker/plastic - so I thought I'd better get one while the getting was good.
 

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I shot the CZ75 Pcr this morning, with a mix of IMI Sampson 115gr MC and Federal 124gr HST regular pressure - it functioned fine. Accuracy was just so-so, for which I blame the stiff, draggy trigger. Surprising me, it was less accurate than my G19 Gen4 with the GlockTriggers Guardian Trigger that I also had along.

Also a problem was the design of the trigger curve - it wore a hole and created a blister in my trigger finger right next to the fingernail. I doesn't feel as if the trigger "snapped back" or anything - it just raises up in an unfortunate place, even through the light deerskin glove I wore. If I weren't planning on swapping out the trigger anyway, I'd take a file to it. I won't be shooting it again until I get that fixed.

In any case, it passed the function test fine, so I can in good conscience spend some money on improving the trigger.
 

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A bud of mine has a single action CZ-75; that's a cool pistol. Yeah, I think the CZ has too much curve to the trigger. If they made it a bit more straight like a Beretta 92, it would be a much better DA and single action trigger. Seems they designed the trigger with DA in mind only, when in reality DA is just the first round. I did round and polish a CZ 75 trigger for a customer once, much like you'd do to a S&W revolver; that helps greatly. The sharp edges on the CZ trigger are not a real great idea. Kinda like the sharp edges on the Ruger DA revolvers...what are they thinking?
 

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Ever since I had a Springfield Armory P9C (their version of a Tanfoglio clone), I have liked the CZ compacts. Nice, solid guns.
 
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