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Ok, just function checked my friend's P.38 after cleaning.

The pistol will not strip the first round from the magazine unless I partially drop the mag and re seat it. Other than that function and accuracy is quite good.

I have a slightly older but less used P.38 that functions flawlessly.

Any input appreciated.
 

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The obvious first question is, does it do this with all/multiple magazines, or just one magazine?
 

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It did it with the 3 that I have - I'm a bit short of P.38 mags I'm afraid.

Tried the same 3 in my gun - no probs.

I had forgotten how much I like shooting these pistolas.

Pulling the trigger on a 9mm feels like shooting a .22 these days.
 

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Three's good enough. I'm gonna repost your Q at the P.38 board and see if anyone has any ideas.
 

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Three's good enough. I'm gonna repost your Q at the P.38 board and see if anyone has any ideas.
Thanks, Snake - I may call Orvel tomorrow after I shoot it a bit more.
 

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The pistol will not strip the first round from the magazine unless I partially drop the mag and re seat it.
1. Do you mean the slide over-rides the first round, or hits it and stops, or partially feeds it but it stalls on the way into the chamber?

2. Does it do it with the first round if the mag is downloaded by one?

3. What kind of ammo were you using?

4. What kind of magazines (WWII or postwar) were you using?

5. Is it doing this from slide locked back, or when manually racking the slide (closed-open-closed), or both?
 

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1. Do you mean the slide over-rides the first round, or hits it and stops, or partially feeds it but it stalls on the way into the chamber?

2. Does it do it with the first round if the mag is downloaded by one?

3. What kind of ammo were you using?

4. What kind of magazines (WWII or postwar) were you using?

5. Is it doing this from slide locked back, or when manually racking the slide (closed-open-closed), or both?
1 - Over-rides
2 - Good question - will try that
3 - 115 gr. FMJ - Winchester white box
4 - WWII
5 - Both

I'm going to shoot it more a bit later this week when it cools off some.
 

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Over-rides are almost always the magazine.
Here's some things to look at.

1. Try a different magazine. The current import P1 magazines will fit.

2. Disassemble the magazine and make sure the spring is oriented the right way.
I've seen lots of magazines over the years in which someone mistakenly turned the spring around so the upper loop was facing the rear of the mag. Result: over-rides.

3. Clean and lube the mags. Some of these haven't been cleaned since 1945.

4. Inspect the mag for denting or crushing of the feed lips or mag body that interferes with the free movement of the follower.

5. Inspect the mag springs for signs someone has stretched them. Stretching a compression type spring damages the structure of the steel and the spring looses tension soon after. People insist on stretching springs to "give them more snap".
 

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Good call guys, it's definitely a mag problem. Cleaned it and it functioned perfectly with my mags but not with the one that accompanied it.

On closer inspection the bad mag was nearly lipless - they had apparently worn down to nearly zip.

Well done - now I need to find Rocky a couple of functional magazines.
 

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I believe the current surplus import P1 magazines are the same.
You can buy brand new P1 mags from several sources.
You might try AIM and Century Arms International.
 
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