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R's and D's...just no hint of integrity

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So here's what truly makes me weep for this country.

The Mueller investigation.

The actual issue: Russians absolutely meddled with our election. It doesn't matter one iota if they were actually successful, or if they colluded with people in the Trump campaign. The ISSUE is the sanctity and security of our elections.

What R's and D's are doing with this...

Democrats have already convicted Trump regardless of what the evidence is, or how the investigation turns out. There's problem one.

Republicans, are so concerned about protecting Trump that they're trying to get the investigation stopped...and thus, willing to just let the election meddling issue go altogether.

Mention the investigation to any Trump supporter, and they immediately start talking about Hillary. There is NO concern among Republicans that Russians have meddled in the election; their only concern is protecting Trump.

Mention the investigation to any Democrat...Trump is a traitor and should go to jail. They don't give a rat's ass about due process; they just want Trump's hide.

What TRULY CONCERNS ME...Neither party is really interested in addressing the ACTUAL ISSUE, and that issue is FAR bigger than the R's & D's.

Now, IF Trump, or ANYONE who works for him did collude with the Russians (and one of his staff clearly did, and has already been prosecuted); then throw his ass in jail. If Trump played a part and there is sufficient evidence to convict; then throw his ass in jail! If there isn't, then LET IT FREAKING GO!!! It doesn't matter how much you're convinced Trump did it; if the evidence isn't there, then it's all just speculation.

Now on the Democrat's what kills me. There is no question...Hillary STOLE the nomination. She hijacked the Democratic party, made the DNC her personal bank account, STOLE the nomination from Bernie Sanders, and the list goes on. None of these facts are disputed; she freaking did it.

Who is calling for her to be kicked out of the party, along with all who helped her? Crickets...

It doesn't matter if Trump is perhaps "worse"... They have an issue of impropriety in their party and it's being completely ignored. Now technically none of what Hillary did was illegal, but it sure the hell was immoral, unethical, and just downright LOW. But the high and mighty Democrats...They want Trumps head, but they're willing to let Hillary get away with pretty much anything she wants.

There is zero integrity in either party...and it's so bad that I truly believe that most of the members of these two parties are just as corrupt as the people they support and vote for.

Democrats let Hillary go because she was trying to "save the world" from Trump... so while it's distasteful, we'll let it go because we're okay with whatever anyone has do to to keep a Republican out of the Oval Office.

Republicans let Trump off the hook because he was trying to "save the world" from Hillary. So while it's distasteful that he may have been working with Russians* we'll let it slide, because after all; he was trying to beat Hillary, the ultimate evil in the world.

Those attitudes aren't just coming from R & D leadership, they're coming from the rank and file; the voters.

Our political system is completely broken when right and wrong just doesn't matter anymore, but winning does.

*Take a good look at the exact circumstances that got Popodopolous in trouble...are you naive enough to think Trump didn't know what Popodopolous and Trump's son was up to? Really?
Yet Republicans would be more than happy to have the investigation shut down right now, even with all the evidence of Russian involvement... Because they want to protect Trump more than they want to protect the sanctity of our elections.
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Which one of Trump's staff "clearly colluded" (keeping in mind that colluding is not a crime) with the Russians? IIRC the only convictions have been for "process crimes" --- lying to investigative authorities. If there IS some crime behind that, WHAT IS IT?
Yes the Russians have meddled in our election. They've done it before, and to others, and as csmkersh said, we have also done it to others.
That politicians are professional pigs and love wallowing in the mud of power, deceit and corruption is not news, it's older than the Roman Tacitus, who advised us, "all actual governments are corrupt."
In my estimation we have two choices:
1. Accept that the Russians are still the bad boys on the block, grow up, and fortify our election processes against further intrusions, be they e- mail or cyber attacks.
2. Nuke Russia. And face the consequences.
Your choice?
I'd rather nuke the Swamp. :rolleyes:
Well, that wasn't exactly one of the choices I was offering, but ..... ;)
Are you kidding? Not one has gone to trial...he has people with a LOT of money taking guilty pleas because he has them cold. And you think there's nothing there? Astounding.
Because THEY lied to investigators under oath, or in more recent cases, committed other crimes prior to Trump's 2016 campaign.
I don't get why these dimwits lied under oath (process crimes) .... they must think they're made of teflon, or that Mueller's menagerie can't do investigative work.

I agree the investigation should go on, primarily because it's going to anyway, and if Trump does stop it the political schiess-Sturm will deafen this solar system, say nothing of the media's electronics.

But I haven't seen or heard a thing that convinces me that Trump "colluded," and I believe if there WAS any proof, it would have leaked out and CNN would have gleefully trumpeted it to the workd.
Personally...I'm don't consider myself very gullible.
I fully believe Trump was involved... But I think there's less than a 10% chance they'll ever be able to prove that. And if you can't prove it, then it didn't happen.
On the basis of WHAT evidence? What you are isn't called gullible, it's called prejudiced.
Yea, I'm PREJUDICED. I'm prejudiced in favor of the TRUTH. I'm happy waiting until the results are in, and until then, believing in the American jurisprudence philosophy of "innocent until proven guilty."

So bite me. :twisted:
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