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I know somebody has had some experience with the subject revolver.

My GF wants a .357 with a Crimson Trace lazer grip for a carry weapon.

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My experience with the latest ones has been with three-inchers. I see no reason why the two-inchers should be any different.

S&W really seems to have gotten the MIM process down. When I re-took the M&P Pistol armorer course about a year ago, we were told that they had shifted to a stainless-steel alloy for MIM. In any case, they seem to be getting very good dimensional consistency and correspondingly nice actions. (I recently re-sprung three Classic Series Model 40's for a student. I had intended to use 13-pound rebound-slide springs but inadvertently ordered the 11-pound springs. To my amazement, they gave reliable trigger return.)

LaserGrip? Maybe, so long as she doesn't think of it as a substitute for learning to shoot. (More detailed comments on my own website.)
 

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She can almost shoot better than me. I trained her some 30 years back (will be together 33 years this Sept).

Rifle, pistol and shotgun. She doesn't like the 1911 or the .44 magnum. Too much recoil.
 

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ExSarge said:
Rifle, pistol and shotgun. She doesn't like the 1911 or the .44 magnum. Too much recoil.
She may not like a two-inch J-frame either. If at all possible, have her try a three-incher: less felt recoil, longer sight radius.

If sh has the hand strength, she may like the three-inch Ruger SP101. That gun soaks up a lot of recoil and many women really like the rubber grip. The factory hammer spring is heavy, at 14 pounds but, unless there is something dragging internally, they seem to function fine with the nine-pound spring from Wolff. (Leave the trigger return spring alone.)
 

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We considered the recoil but she is strong and we both agreed that if she really had to use it
she would be pumped up on adrenalin.

Last time I shot a buck with my 30-06 I never even felt the recoil.
 

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We considered the recoil but she is strong and we both agreed that if she really had to use it she would be pumped up on adrenalin.

Last time I shot a buck with my 30-06 I never even felt the recoil.
Yet recoil was an issue with the prior handguns she tried? Perhaps they were unpleasant for training and failed to inspire confidence for that reason? Has anyone ever identified a phenomenon called anticipation, where the shot is pushed or jerked low because one has been poorly conditioned by excessive recoil?

It's her gunfight.
 

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Wasn't a problem. She just didn't like the heavy recoil.

Coached M1 and 1911 in the USMC so I got her to fire all the calibers we have in both rifle and pistol with
confidence and to hit what she aimed at. Darn good shot for a girl.

Does a good job with a +P .38 she now carries.

Her comment about the 1911 and .44 Mag was, "They aren't fun guns.".
 

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I've found that shot-to-shot times were better with +P .38 loads. I don't carry .357 loads anymore, even in revolvers chambered for it. Nice thing about that M-60, the additional weight will make shooting +P loads easier.
Please clarify: additional weight compared to what?

  • Are you comparing S&W's 60 to something like their 642?[/*:m:qjpgj9a6]
  • Are you comparing the current 60, with the underlug 2 1/8" barrel, to the older version, with the 1 7/8" barrel?[/*:m:qjpgj9a6]
  • Are you comparing a 3" version to a 2" version?[/*:m:qjpgj9a6]
Clearly, you are not comparing a S&W 60 to a Ruger SP101. :lol:
 

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Picked it up yesterday. Zeroed in the laser and ran just a couple through it.
She said it kicked more than the .38 but nothing she couldn't handle.
It is now her carry gun.

Interestingly enough one day while walking the dog she was carrying a Bersa .380 and I gave her
an emergency drill. She failed by not being able to get the safety off because
she was thumbing the slide lock thinking it was the safety. Next day we got her the
.38 and she won't carry anything else but a double action revolver now. She loves
both the .38 and the .357.
 
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