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Socialism, Antifa and Maybe "Civil War" II

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Originally Posted by Javlin View Post

Yeah I was planning that myself TG bring the thread hard about to issues of today.While only about 30K members nationally I would suspect they have many of the BLM,Colleges and Antifa who view them with some form of admiration and thought DSA Democratic Socialist of America.I like the idea about no economic profit so who decides that Kevin has enough money?Don't tell me it's Bigger Guberment.

The platform:

Article II. Purpose

We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, gender expression, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships. We are socialists because we are developing a concrete strategy for achieving that vision, for building a majority movement that will make democratic socialism a reality in America. We believe that such a strategy must acknowledge the class structure of American society and that this class structure means that there is a basic conflict of interest between those sectors with enormous economic power and the vast majority of the population.

more here:https://www.dsausa.org/constitution
We are very close to a real civil war IMNSHO. With Congresswoman Mad Max Waters and Pelosi pumping up the rabble we may need to start carrying any time we are out and about.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/01/6250...far-right-and-antifa-groups-clash-in-portland

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dfariswheel,

What bothers me MOST is the possibility that the HARD LEFT, which is WELL-FINANCED, will start "importing" terrorists/drug-cartel thugs/mercenaries to do medium to large terrorist acts, like the OKC bombing in the large cities of the USA.

NO, "Podunk" small town, TX, TN, KS, NE, FL or AL won't see any actual shoot-outs in the streets but DC, NC, Atlanta, CA cities, Dallas, Houston, Baltimore & even San Antonio very well MIGHT have horrid but short in duration bombings/snipers/group attacks on police/FD/schools/hospitals/etc. & other "small scale" but very damaging attacks.

yours, sw
Fortunately the FBI are expert at short stopping terrorists.
We may not like the spying and surveillance of ordinary Americans, but it does keep the foreign terrorist down.

Any imports paid for by wealthy Lefties will not get far, and they themselves would be quickly caught.
It's near impossible to spend that kind of money and not be found out these days.
Due to the risks of that, few if any wealthy American lefties will chance loosing the good life in prison.

I suspect any real Lefty "war" will be 60's style riots and terror attacks by bombings and shooting at the police by tiny groups of crazies.
Due to them not living in the Real World, they tend to be pretty incompetent at effective violence, and have trouble keeping their mouths shut, which makes it easier to be identified.
Once ID'd they become hunted like animals and are too busy running to be very effective.

The major reason why it won't go past this is that America simply doesn't support that kind of violence by any radical group.
To be effective they need either to be able to hide in a general population which supports what they do, or to be able to terrorize people into remaining silent.
Neither is possible in the USA.
Even the general harder Left won't actively aid and support that level of violence. They may sympathize, but will not get involved in any major amount because they too have too much to loose, ie the good life.

When they see their radical friends laying shot dead in the street by the police or seeing them getting 20 to life in prison, their feet tend to get rather cold and they suddenly have other things to do to keep the good life flowing.

Again, it probably isn't going to be pretty but it will be very small scale and in limited areas few of us will ever visit.
In order to have another civil war it would take a LOT more then the relatively tiny handful who may try violence.
This isn't the South in 1861 and there aren't enough of them.

This is not to say that it won't be pretty, and it may really outrage and anger most Americans for a time, but it isn't going anywhere.
Funny thing about America. When Americans have had enough, things tend to get taken care of due to popular demand.

America got tired of the 60's and early 70's radicals.
Where are they now?
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I tend to be a little dubious about some projections that claim attack will come only in bigger liberal (ie., UNARMED) cities, not in more conservative southern areas.
There's a lot of conservative in many of these areas, and they're not big city elites. Remember these don't have to be done with firearms. Bombs worked well enough in the Boston marathon attack. And while the dimwit bombers did get caught, they didn't get into a gunfight. If Nutty Jr. Hadn't hid out in a boat, he might very well have escaped.
There have been other more successful bombers that managed to pull of multiple bombings as well.
There have been other more successful bombers that managed to pull of multiple bombings as well.
Yes, and not even outside this country. Google "Speedway Bomber" Brett Kimberlin sometime, and that's not even getting to that turdhumper Kaczynski...

Yep, the worry isn't going to be ACW2.0 with lines of infantry, or even WWII-style partisan warfare. If this balloon goes up, it's going to be snipings and bombings, hit-and-run-and-live-to-hit-again stuff, possibly even using duped SJW's as delivery-boys much like how for a time AQI liked to use slower-witted folk as unknowing suicide-bombers. In short, expect the Left to channel their inner Daeshbag, except without the willingness to die for their cause.
dfariswheel,

Pardon me for pointing out that the FBI didn't catch the Muslim terrorists that crashed airliners into the Twin Towers in NYC, the airliner that the passengers "forced down" at Shanksville PA or the Pentagon, nor did they catch the Boston Marathon bombers (though they had been watching them for MONTHS) nor did they catch any number of other crazies before they did their evil deeds.
(I'm NOT "a great admirer of" the FBI.)

I fear that what I said about hired terrorists/mercenaries is just as likely in the future as that there will be NO such "hiring of terrorists/criminals" by the FAR LEFT & USA-HATING elite. = ALL that it will take is ONE such RICH lunatic to pay for such a horror story (with a pile of untraceable cash, paid overseas) being visited upon the innocent.
(IF that one leftist does pay for a terrorist incident, he surely won't tell anyone, presuming that he wants to escape punishment.)

To my personal knowledge, we have yet to actually catch/try/punish anyone who paid the suicide bombers in any nation, despite the best efforts of the Armed Forces, federal LE agencies, the Mossad and/or any other foreign force.
(In point of fact, not even the BOMB-MAKERS are almost never caught/punished/killed & the bomber is usually dead.)

Just my OPINION, sw
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ALL that it will take is ONE such RICH lunatic to pay for such a horror story (with a pile of untraceable cash, paid overseas) being visited upon the innocent.
George Soros comes to mind.
George Soros comes to mind.
Precisely my thinking... on the other hand, he's a Known Variable to watch. How many others just like him are there in the Billionaires' Club that keep it on the down-low so we DON'T?
csmkersh; Diamondback,

Your notions & mine are the same.

yours, sw
Yeah, if I were Soros knowing that the cat's out of the bag on me I'd try to draw all the attention to myself as a decoy, kind of like the high-stakes "Where's Waldo" MacArthur tried to play with his frequent trips to the front and practically *daring* the Japanese to come whack him.

There's a reason magicians wave wands around... it's because they want you to focus on the diversion in one hand, not what's being done with the other.
Looks like at least one of these guys might have gotten himself into a real jam. The unregistered silencer is a biggie. The BATFE tends to not have much of a sense of humor about that stuff.

Interesting that this was in South Dakota. Maybe a lone whacko who gravitated to this stuff, not entirely known with fringe ideologies.

https://www.kdlt.com/2018/07/18/police-bombs-guns-found-while-serving-search-warrant-for-burglaries/
Looks like at least one of these guys might have gotten himself into a real jam. The unregistered silencer is a biggie. The BATFE tends to not have much of a sense of humor about that stuff.

Interesting that this was in South Dakota. Maybe a lone whacko who gravitated to this stuff, not entirely known with fringe ideologies.

https://www.kdlt.com/2018/07/18/police-bombs-guns-found-while-serving-search-warrant-for-burglaries/
The bomb manufacturing doesn't sound lightweight, either.
I don't think that guy was operating on all cylinders .... :rolleyes:
So they continue in Portland?They only moved down the road.The Feds are hand tied being its a state/local issue as far as enforcement of laws maybe the L/States will eat themselves up?

A Portland, Oregon, food cart has been forced to close, according to its owners, after an employee was threatened and mocked by "abolish ICE" activists.

The Happy Camper food cart, owned operated by Scott and Julie Hanks of Portland, is being forced to close after their 21-year-old daughter, Brianna, - who works at the food cart - was allegedly targeted and threatened by illegal alien activists nearby with an "abolish ICE" camp site.

For weeks, illegal alien activists have taken over the sidewalk and roadway to protest the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. The activists are demanding that the local Portland ICE office be shut down, though police have ordered the activists to shut down the camp site.

The Happy Camper food cart serves food to the public and gives the profits towards helping the homeless in the Portland area. Now, the owners of the food cart are saying they are having to close down shop after Brianna was threatened and followed by abolish ICE activists after she sold an ICE employee food.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...ce-closure-of-family-owned-charity-food-cart/
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Antifa taking over Portland now?Only in a liberal bastion could this happen cause down South there would be puddles in the road.


Doesn't our old crewmate Bearcat6 live down in Oregon somewhere? Hope he's okay down there...
I'm doing OK in this lunatic bin. If I wasn't so old and beat up and have semi truck load of guns I would move. Right now I just try to ignore all the BS. I have a long time friend who calms me down when it gets too bad. The Kavanaugh hearing drove me up the wall. I have never seen such a transparent attempt to impose their will on the country as the demons did in that one. I wasn't a Donald fan when he first started to run, but I sure as hell am now.

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Not quite there yet myself, BC6, but I'm quickly warming up to the idea...
I wasn't a Donald fan when he first started to run, but I sure as hell am now.
You are not alone, my friend. You are legion. You are LEGIONS of LEGIONS.

The assier the Dims get, the more millions of Trump fans/supporters they create.
Book Reco for beating the Left at their own game: Matt Walsh's "Rules for Radical Conservatives."
https://www.amazon.com/Rules-Radica.../ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Wish it were available in paperback rather than just icky Kindle or heavy hardcover...
Well, it will be short whatever it is.

And doubtless focused in the population centers.

The left can't decide which bathroom to use, let alone from which end of the weapon the bad juju emanates.
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