That's a good question.

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Mad Ogre

Discussion Starter · Sep 6, 2004

I was asked what bolt action rifle I would buy in .300 Win Mag. I'm not that big on what I call "Long Brown Guns". Most of my LBG shooting has been done with Remingtons, Winchesters, and Weatherbys. Each one is a fine rifle... very serviceable. Pros and Cons to each.
I like Savage's new gimicky Accu-Trigger thingamabob... gimicky as heck, but it does make for a nice trigger pull. Trigger is much nicer than the rifle's action in my opinion.
I don't know.
But I have to admit to really liking the CZ rifles. Looking at what they have in .300WM, I'm liking this one:
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http://www.cz-usa.com/product.detail.php?id=23
I've looked at one of these in a different caliber at my local shop a few weeks back and thought it was very fine. Action was in need of some polish and so was the trigger but everything else was very good. Fit and finish and attention to details all looked excellent.

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Al Thompson

· #2 · Sep 7, 2004

The few I've handled looked very nice and I am a huge fan of CRF. IMHO, the CZ rifles are a best buy.

On the other hand, I am not at all impressed with the Winchester .300. Weatherby, yes - actually gives you some advantage over the '06.

Mad Ogre

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 7, 2004

Oh, I agree... .300 Win Mag isn't my favorite. But if I had to chose a rifle for it.

Charlie Petty

· #4 · Sep 7, 2004

For the money it's hard to beat Savage. I have one of their stainless "Weather Warrior" models in 7 mag that will shot .75" with good ammo. Ain't pretty but sure is functional.

csmkersh

· #5 · Sep 7, 2004

CP is right; The Weather Warrior is a good, functional rifle. Not pretty, but does what it's supposed to do. Don't waste money on their package deals though. Go ahead and buy the best scope and mounts you can afford.

Mad Ogre

Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 7, 2004

The Ruger 77 is functional too... but that doesn't mean I'd spend money on one.

Water, as a beverage is also functional. But right now a Mt Dew "Livewire" is my druther.

Charlie Petty

· #7 · Sep 7, 2004

And your point is???

Tim Burke

· #8 · Sep 8, 2004

I find that, as I get older, I drink water more & more, by choice.

Mad Ogre

Discussion Starter · #9 · Sep 8, 2004

Not a fan of Savage.

jeffw

· #10 · Sep 8, 2004

I bought a CZ550 in 458 win mag this spring.I love it.

two thumbs up!good stuff maynard!

mikegunner

· #11 · Sep 8, 2004

Mad Ogre said:
Not a fan of Savage.

As a dealer who sees and sells quite a few firearms, it is my opinion that of the current domestic manufacturers of mid level long guns (between $3-500 wholesale) which would include Ruger, Remington and Savage -- Savage wins hands down for quality out of the box. The accu-trigger system makes it so an individual can safely adjust the trigger pull down to 1.5 pounds without having to spend the money to send the gun to a competent gunsmith.

One of the problems Savage faces is that to many people remember the JUNK that the company produced in the late 80's and 90's. The management took the company back private and have turned the company completely around. I have never had a customer who I sold a Savage to come back with any complaints. Wish I could say that about Remington or Ruger.

Glen Wertle

· #12 · Sep 9, 2004

Just about a year ago I bought one of the Tikka T-3 rifles in 308. It has been a great rifle, all be it a tad to long...I had to cut the barrel down to 18" :wink: . Packed with features, super smooth and wickedly accurate!
If I were going to buy another Bolt gun it would be one of these.

Mad Ogre

Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 9, 2004

" One of the problems Savage faces is that to many people remember the JUNK that the company produced in the late 80's and 90's. "

*raises hand*

Al Thompson

· #14 · Sep 16, 2004

Oops....

JR

· #15 · Oct 14, 2004

I bought one of the older Savage 110 FLP rifles in .300 Win Mag back in the 90s. It has proven to be a reliable, accurate, and easy to maintain weapon. With Federal Gold Medal 190 gr rounds, it will do less than 1 MOA out to 300 yards, as far as I've been able to practice with it as of yet. As far as the caliber, it's sufficiently more powerful than the .30-06 for all but the largest dangerous big game.

Al Thompson

· #16 · Oct 15, 2004

I'd agree that it's more powerful, but according to the Speer #12 reloading manual, it's only 300 FPS faster than an '06 with 180 grain bullets. If you look at the ballistics (again from #12), the difference in drop at 300 yards is 3.3 inches.

The bullet's the same (.30 cal) , so no real difference in effects, just a slightly flatter trajectory.

Same bullet (180 grain boat tail spitzer) launched by a .300 Weatherby is pretty solidly at 3150 to 3200 FPS. The .300 Win Mag is 3000 FPS and the trundling '06 is 2750ish FPS.

If I wanted to go beyond an '06 for hunting, I'd look at the .338 Win Mag or the .338-06 or .35 Whelen. Bullet mass is a constant, velocity is fleeting.

Tim

· #17 · Oct 18, 2004

Glen Wertle said:
Just about a year ago I bought one of the Tikka T-3 rifles in 308. It has been a great rifle, all be it a tad to long...I had to cut the barrel down to 18" :wink: . Packed with features, super smooth and wickedly accurate!
If I were going to buy another Bolt gun it would be one of these.

Just got a Tikka T-3 myself. Stainless; composite in .338WM. moderate price and ease of trigger adjustment is what attracted me. Guranteed 1 moa out of box and it is. Have only put 20 through it though and it is not been fired in hunger...yet.

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