[Daniel Watters]

This was just posted earlier today on Federal Business Opportunities.

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...c0f178480b6ce1c3922566274ea&tab=core&_cview=0

This is a PRE-SOLICITATION NOTICE of a proposed requirement for various commercial "OFF THE SHELF" semi-automatic pistols chambered to fire a 9mm Luger cartridge as defined by SAAMI. This notice is issued solely for informational and planning purposes only.

The following types of pistols, chambered to fire a 9mm Luger cartridge, may be requested for testing and evaluation purposes under a future solicitation:

Class One Pistol: barrel length between 3.75" and 4.25"; with a minimum magazine capacity of 13 rounds.

Class Two Pistol: barrel length between 4.5" and 5.5"; with a minimum magazine capacity of 15 rounds.

Class One Training Pistol (Red Handle): deactivated with full articulation, red receiver and slide, night sights.

Class One "Man Marking" (a.k.a., "Simunitions") pistol: blue slide or slide with blue inserts.

They anticipate making a formal Request for Proposal in the first quarter of Fiscal Year 2015.

 

[Kevin Gibson]

The FBI has a total of 35k employees...TOTAL.

This is a $100 million dollar contract. If they paid $500.00 per gun, that's 200,000 guns!!!

 

[TommyGunn]

I have a slightly used Remington R51 in 9mm.
I wonder if the FBI would ...

Never mind ... I think I'll have it gold plated and stick it in my safe where it will accrue great value and someday be worth $$$millions$$$$.

:ek::headbonk:

:cluebat:

:bolt:

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

(I also have a bridge in Brroklyn N.Y. I can offer you for a good price.)

 

[Charlie Petty]

Some friends in the know say that improvements in 9mm ammo have had an effect on the popularity of the .40 plus lower cost and lighter recoil of the 9

 

[spwenger]

Who Else but Glock..

...already offers red and blue training guns?

 

[SpecialEd]

Interesting there is no specification for action type.

 

[spwenger]

If No One...

Interesting there is no specification for action type.

...other than Glock offers off-the-shelf red guns and blue guns, there may be no need for them to specify action type.

 

[SpecialEd]

...other than Glock offers off-the-shelf red guns and blue guns, there may be no need for them to specify action type.

You got me, that automatically rules out everyone else.

 

[Diamondback]

Two words: "Spray Paint."

So a doublestack 9mm 1911, with optional Simunitions barrel and corresponding top-half and a dummy Blue Gun slide-assembly with unbored barrel. I'm sure any competent barrel shop could handle that component... just a simple matter of which barrel goes ni what color slide.

So simple, a Democrat could do it... LOL

 

[t-star]

no mattel-?

 

[stand watie]

Kevin Gibson, et. al.,

IF what we've heard is true, the ZERO MIS-administration has bought enough ammo for about a CENTURY, at current levels of use.
Thus, I'm NOT at all surprised that the same motley coven of fools, BIGOTS, morons, busybodies, SELF-interested "public nannies", HATERS, bloated bureaucrats, radical leftists/fascists & just plain common criminals, who call, themselves "progressives", would be that wasteful of taxpayer's money.

just my OPINION, sw

 

[IrishCop]

Yeah SW, they reportedly have millions of rounds of 40 S&W duty ammo stockpiled.

Wonder if they're gonna have one heckuva yard sale?

 

[William R. Moore]

The M&P9 fits class one, there's a long slide version that fits class two. Class three requires a bit of work, a simmumitions barrel and some paint does class four.

Typically, those contracts include transition training, armorer training, service and spare parts. That inflates the contract value. As does a rider for additional weapons that may be required and continuing guaranteed parts prices.

Note: 'contract value' and final price aren't necessarily the same thing.

 

[Diamondback]

Class three requires a bit of work...

Not really--no firing pin and an un-bored (well, chamber and small well for bullet only so it'll chamber but not fire) barrel, and it's good.

Cheap and cheerful, and virtually Off The Shelf.

 

[CaptainGyro]

So, the military wants to trade up from the 9mm, and the FBI wants to trade down to the 9mm.

Too bad we can't get these guys in sync...

 

[stand watie]

CaptainGyro,

What would make sense to me is STOP SPENDING MONEY to buy things that we don't really NEED and cannot afford.

yours, sw

 

[CaptainGyro]

Roger that.

 

[spwenger]

Apples and Oranges

So, the military wants to trade up from the 9mm, and the FBI wants to trade down to the 9mm.

Too bad we can't get these guys in sync...

FBI does not have their lawyers telling them that, despite the fact that the US never signed the Hague Accords, they are barred from using expanding (e.g., JHP) bullets.

 

[Kevin Gibson]

So, the military wants to trade up from the 9mm, and the FBI wants to trade down to the 9mm.

Too bad we can't get these guys in sync...

One can use hollow point, the other can't. New 124+P's or 147's in 9mm will do most anything LE needs.

In FMJ's clearly you just want the biggest bullet you can get.

 

[Kevin Gibson]

CaptainGyro,

What would make sense to me is STOP SPENDING MONEY to buy things that we don't really NEED and cannot afford.

yours, sw

Well that's just crazy talk...fiscal responsiblity...where do you come up with that stuff???