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Not a problem, Ratfink. I don't drink their coffee anyway. Too expensive and in my opinion the quality is overrated.
And to be honest, this isn't a ban on guns per se...it's a request not to open carry there. In Alabama, under our new law, business owners do have that right.
But like I said....meh. I don't spend money there anyway.
And to be honest, this isn't a ban on guns per se...it's a request not to open carry there. In Alabama, under our new law, business owners do have that right.
But like I said....meh. I don't spend money there anyway.
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Ratfink2u,
I suspect that those of us who carry concealed will go right on carrying our handguns.
(NOT even most of my friends know that I essentially go NO place W/O my Sig-Sauer, though I've been retired since 2006.)
yours, sw
I suspect that those of us who carry concealed will go right on carrying our handguns.
(NOT even most of my friends know that I essentially go NO place W/O my Sig-Sauer, though I've been retired since 2006.)
yours, sw
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IrishCop,
YEP.
yours, sw
YEP.
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Agree with all the above, I carry to church with my pastors blessings and have all my career and into my 2 years of retirement...Starbux is over-priced and over rated but that being said, they only took this position cowering to the Demoncats demands.
The coast is saturated with GREAT coffee stands, Dutch brothers for example. This thier right to request us not to carry on their premises, but it also my right to do business elsewhere. :-?
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I agree with madogre.com Let's Face Facts Folks, all Starbucks ever said was "We obey local laws." UNFORTUNATELY too many folks have been using Starbucks to "grand stand" open carry, with the result the pictures are being used against us.
Geoff
Who notes FL laws about brandishing should be a concern.
Geoff
Who notes FL laws about brandishing should be a concern.
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I'm following this mess on some other forums, and the OC gang are in many cases truly childish with their adolescent demand to strut their guns, anywhere and anytime, no matter how inconsiderate it may be.
Too many people carry their egos in their holsters, and it's hurting our cause.
Too many people carry their egos in their holsters, and it's hurting our cause.
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I recently saw a restaurant down in Wetumpka that just posted a 'NO GUNS' sign. I can only presume it was aimed at the new OC crowd who just HAD to strut around with their pieces showing.Not a problem, Ratfink. I don't drink their coffee anyway. Too expensive and in my opinion the quality is overrated.
And to be honest, this isn't a ban on guns per se...it's a request not to open carry there. In Alabama, under our new law, business owners do have that right.
But like I said....meh. I don't spend money there anyway.
I also know of at least one church where CC is no big deal, but is considering posting signs, since OC on private citizens is not considered appropriate to a church environment.
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shep854,
Businesses that post "NO GUNS" signs have every RIGHT to do so BUT they do NOT get my business, as leaving my handgun in the car is NOT smart.
Further such places are TARGETS OF OPPORTUNITY for armed lunatics & vicious predators.
(This is PERSONAL for me, as I lost a cousin, his wife and one of their daughters in The Daingerfield Church Massacre. I also lost several childhood chums to that CREEP, who told the sheriff of Morris County that he intended to KILL "them [email protected]#$%^& Christers" AND that he KNEW that NOBODY would have a gun in the church.)
NOTE: 99% of Americans have never even heard of The Daingerfield Church Massacre, as it was NOT a story that "the mainstream press" (READ: FAR LEFT) WANTED TO TELL, as 13 church-members were KILLED & least 25 more innocents were seriously wounded. - When it was learned that the MASS MURDERER was:
1. a leftist Democrat activist,
2. a radical atheist,
3. a hater of Christians
and
4. a trade union "organizer"
ALL of the newspapers, radio stations & TV people "evaporated", as if by magic. - Nonetheless, all these years later, Daingerfield & Morris County remain SAD & WOUNDED IN SPIRIT.
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Businesses that post "NO GUNS" signs have every RIGHT to do so BUT they do NOT get my business, as leaving my handgun in the car is NOT smart.
Further such places are TARGETS OF OPPORTUNITY for armed lunatics & vicious predators.
(This is PERSONAL for me, as I lost a cousin, his wife and one of their daughters in The Daingerfield Church Massacre. I also lost several childhood chums to that CREEP, who told the sheriff of Morris County that he intended to KILL "them [email protected]#$%^& Christers" AND that he KNEW that NOBODY would have a gun in the church.)
NOTE: 99% of Americans have never even heard of The Daingerfield Church Massacre, as it was NOT a story that "the mainstream press" (READ: FAR LEFT) WANTED TO TELL, as 13 church-members were KILLED & least 25 more innocents were seriously wounded. - When it was learned that the MASS MURDERER was:
1. a leftist Democrat activist,
2. a radical atheist,
3. a hater of Christians
and
4. a trade union "organizer"
ALL of the newspapers, radio stations & TV people "evaporated", as if by magic. - Nonetheless, all these years later, Daingerfield & Morris County remain SAD & WOUNDED IN SPIRIT.
yours, sw
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Pete, I totally agree with you. I have never seen the big attraction in Open Carry. I understand that some think this is a matter of constitutional principal, but in our state, with CC permits so easy to get, I think it is more a matter of ego than anything else..."Look at me! I gotta gun!"
We haven't had any issues in Morgan County since it became law...not that I'm aware of, anyway.
I'm still waiting for some schmoe to walk into the mall with an AR slung over his shoulder just to "make a statement". :-?
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Well, I just bought a new Colt M4(orgery) and put a new Eotech on it ....but I ain't takin' it to the local mall slung over my shoulder or elsewise!
Unless some bizarrely unusual event occurs which necessitates the carrying of longarms I think my CCW will do much better.
If the Chinese Army invades and lands at Mobile I will break out my longarms and run down there and pop a few of 'em.:twisted: Yeah.... ain't waitin' for THAT to happen.....*
*-Though with Obama in office you never really know ......
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I'm not sure why you'd want to give up the tactical advantage of the BG -not knowing- you were armed.
And I hardly ever drink coffee out since I got a Keurig.
And I hardly ever drink coffee out since I got a Keurig.
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WaltGraham,
AGREED.
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AGREED.
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Love the Keurig! But it hasn't cured me of having a Coffee at Cracker Barrel or other breakfast haunt.
I prefer carrying concealed ... but I can see advantages and disadvantages to both OC and CCW depending upon circumstance .... I will admit I have not open carried since the law changed here.
Habit...really, I guess.....
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Given the timing of the posting of the sign I mentioned, I wonder if it's a form of wink & nod, 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell', where the owners are OK with CC, but are concerned about how patrons will react to OC, since it's NOT common in AL. If I go back to this eatery, if they don't ask, I won't tell.
Stand Watie, I fully agree about the futility of leaving your gun in the car. In the past, I've avoided 'NO GUN' establishments for the same reason.
Stand Watie, I fully agree about the futility of leaving your gun in the car. In the past, I've avoided 'NO GUN' establishments for the same reason.
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shep854,
Even if you do not ever need a handgun to preserve your life, leaving it in a vehicle is an invitation to get it stolen and your car/truck damaged as well.
(One of my instructors, who we called The Polish Falcon, when I was a rookie over 4 decades ago said, "It may be that you young officers may complete your career and never need fire a shot. BUT there just may come a day that you will need a firearm & on that BAD DAY you will NEED it badly. So always go armed."
During my 30+ years of "being pinned to a star", I needed that handgun desperately four times. - Had I not had one then, I'm convinced that I wouldn't be writing these lines.
yours, sw
Even if you do not ever need a handgun to preserve your life, leaving it in a vehicle is an invitation to get it stolen and your car/truck damaged as well.
(One of my instructors, who we called The Polish Falcon, when I was a rookie over 4 decades ago said, "It may be that you young officers may complete your career and never need fire a shot. BUT there just may come a day that you will need a firearm & on that BAD DAY you will NEED it badly. So always go armed."
During my 30+ years of "being pinned to a star", I needed that handgun desperately four times. - Had I not had one then, I'm convinced that I wouldn't be writing these lines.
yours, sw
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Amen SW..better to have it and not need it than vice-versa. San Antone is a hopping town eh? Modesto was too and getting worse. When I started we averaged a OIS once a year...now, once or twice a month. Mine had 5 of us involved but out of 28 rounds fired, 28 were recovered inside the BG van...no strays! That's purty good shootin at a moving target I think.
I served 22 years, decided my last pay cut would be just that! Gave them back their shield on Dec 14th 2011....my wife did the same although she was a deputy. We both had enough...
I served 22 years, decided my last pay cut would be just that! Gave them back their shield on Dec 14th 2011....my wife did the same although she was a deputy. We both had enough...
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