I have both. The first one I bought was Thumlers tumbler which is quiet and takes longer followed by a Thumlers case vibrator which is fast but makes more noise. The case tumbler came first and my loading activities backed up because even though it's pretty large for a tumbler it can only handle about 100 .308 cases at a time. I wanted to tumble rifle cases after full length sizing to remove the case lube. So I bought the case vibrator to clean and polish the spent cases and use the tumbler to remove case lube.David Berkowitz said:Any suggestions?