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When you hear the term "Hot Rod" or "Muscle Car", what car do you think of?

[IMG=left]http://selectmotors.net/images/camaro/1968/ss350/c_small.jpg[/IMG]
I think of a '68 SS, just like this one.

Some day it will be mine, oh yes.... some day...
 

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Nah, Ogre --- I could never bring myself to own a prodcut manufactured by General Motors (long story) ---

I get my undies bunched up over Mustangs!!! My very first car was a 1972 Mustang Fastback that I was in the process of restoring. Dang thing had rust in the frame though, so I sold it and got out from under it before it collapsed! If not for the family, I would go get one of the newly redesigned Mustangs (the SVT GT will not come out until 2006 model year) :(
 

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Buy a 2006? :shock:
For the love of pete - why? For that much money there are lots of classic Mustangs that you could restore and rebuild and make a real muscle car out of!

2006... Feh...
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Mad Ogre said:
Buy a 2006? :shock:
For the love of pete - why? For that much money there are lots of classic Mustangs that you could restore and rebuild and make a real muscle car out of!

2006... Feh...
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Why ---

Simple --- as much as I love older vehicles, the advances in technology and safety that have taken place in the past 35-40 years make it a simple decision.
If I were to win the lottery, I would love to have one of the new Ford GT's that are coming out this year. You would be hard pressed to find me a production car (other than an exotic) from the 60's/70's that will do over 200MPH safely.
 

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Oh your killing me... Mike... When you are rebuilding an old car you can put the new technology into it! You can put in the new suspension components and tune it just right for the car. All that. With a little creativity you can make that old classic 200MPH capable. (Well, depending on the body shape and the engine - but you get my drift)
For the money you would be spending on a 2006 - you could do this to a classic Stang and then you would REALLY have something cool and special.
I guess I should have used a different word than "Restore". Because I NEVER put in all "stock" and "originial" parts. Rebuild isn't the best word either. You could probably get that 2006 suspension and put it under your Classic. Scratch "probably". You can. It's just a matter of how bad you want to do it.

Come out to Utah and visit the Bonneville Salt Flats some day. You will not believe the things you see there.
 

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One of my customers hold the record for speed in a street rod on the Bonneville Salt Flats (car resembled a t-bucket) --- and a local guy brings a car there every year and has been in the books multiple times for various land speed records. (Driver was Leonard "Bud" Daugherty --- and the car builder is Joe Law)
 

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Ogre, what Mike is probably trying to say is as we get old(er) we like our creature comforts. :lol: There's nothing like a car that you can drive to the track with the A/C going full blast listening to the tunes, running consistent 12s or better, then driving back home. :D

For my next trick (I think) it's gonna be the Dodge Magnum AWD with the Hemi. However, in '06 Chrysler is going to bore out the 5.7 to get 425 h.p.! Wowsa! 8) Unfortunately, for now anyway, it's only going in the 300. Also Dodge will have their own version of a sedan called naturally, Charger. Expect to see these in Police Packages.

Chebby & Furd with the exception of the new Mustang, still don't get it.
Not everyone wants or can use a 2 seater that lists up to $60,000 with tax.

Remember when you could buy a '58 Chevy Del Ray 2dr post with the 348 tri power setup? How about in order to run NASCAR in the early '60s the car manufs. had to sell 100 street versions? Now you got 2door Taurus"??? that couldn't run on the street if they were in an enclosed trailer. :roll:

BTW, what I posted about the new Chyslers is in the newest issue of Motor Trend magazine. I get it by mail so it might not be on the shelves yet. The Charger looks way cool. :D
 

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Ogre, what Mike is probably trying to say is as we get old(er) we like our creature comforts. :lol: There's nothing like a car that you can drive to the track with the A/C going full blast listening to the tunes, running consistent 12s or better, then driving back home. :D

For my next trick (I think) it's gonna be the Dodge Magnum AWD with the Hemi. However, in '06 Chrysler is going to bore out the 5.7 to get 425 h.p.! Wowsa! 8) Unfortunately, for now anyway, it's only going in the 300. Also Dodge will have their own version of a sedan called naturally, Charger. Expect to see these in Police Packages.

Chebby & Furd with the exception of the new Mustang, still don't get it.
Not everyone wants or can use a 2 seater that lists up to $60,000 with tax.

Remember when you could buy a '58 Chevy Del Ray 2dr post with the 348 tri power setup? How about in order to run NASCAR in the early '60s the car manufs. had to sell 100 street versions? Now you got 2door Taurus"??? that couldn't run on the street if they were in an enclosed trailer. :roll:

BTW, what I posted about the new Chyslers is in the newest issue of Motor Trend magazine. I get it by mail so it might not be on the shelves yet. The Charger looks way cool. :D
Dino --

you fairly well hit it on the head!!

On the HEMI -- my wife's Durango Limited has the HEMI and boy will that sucker RUN!!!!! I have to be careful because I will look down and be doing around 100 and have to back off.

I prefer to drive with comfort because when I had a sports car, it was a TICKET MAGNET. Around here, there is not anywhere you can utilize the over 100mph safely, so I may as well drive my Expedition or Durango at those speeds and not attract any attention from the members of Law Enforcement. I have been running in a pack of people, and the person in the sports car gets the ticket almost 100% of the time (unless there is someone with an out of state lic. plate in the group behind the sports car)
 

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"Ogre, what Mike is probably trying to say is as we get old(er) we like our creature comforts. icon_lol.gif There's nothing like a car that you can drive to the track with the A/C going full blast listening to the tunes, running consistent 12s or better, then driving back home. "


Nancy boys... Roll down the windows and listen your engine.
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'41 Willys! :rock:
I built and raced a '72 Mach I in the 80's Mike so I know what ya mean...I loved that car... But I've always wanted an old school Willys fixed up '60's drag style....
 

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Now here we go... that's what I'm talking about.
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Mine has always been a blown,injected,Hemi powered three window coupe.Chopped,channeled,louvered,& sans hood & engine cover.Make mine black w/traditional flames.It needs a five speed gear box,a set of gauges,a pair of buckets,& a radio(for when you're parked-ONLY).
Thats what does it for me anyways.

For extra points it would have either a 354 or 392 Hemi.W/a Moon bug catcher.sigh
 

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Fernando, my sister baught a 77 Formula with t-tops new. When she got married a few years later and had kids she shut in the garage and there it sat until two years ago when her son (the brother of the boy who just joined the Navy and is presently in Pensacola) baught it off her and put a lot of work into it. It is black with the gold trim with a 400" engine. I like the Formula's better as I don't like the big decal on the hood.

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In 1979 I was looking for a Firebird Formula with the 400 motor for the same reason. I didn't like the big birdie. A dealer I'd gone to called me and said he had a new T/A but unfortunately it came through without the hood decal so it would be hard to sell. I bought it and after the a/c and the transmission was fixed :shock: it was a pretty good car. :p
 

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In 1979 I was looking for a Firebird Formula with the 400 motor for the same reason. I didn't like the big birdie. A dealer I'd gone to called me and said he had a new T/A but unfortunately it came through without the hood decal so it would be hard to sell. I bought it and after the a/c and the transmission was fixed :shock: it was a pretty good car. :p
I had a 1985 Camaro IROC/Z28 that I bought for myself when I graduated college. That car is the reason I will NEVER own another General Motor's vehicle as long as I live!

That car was like KITT from Knight Rider because if you let go of the steering wheel, it knew it's own way back to Anthony Chevrolet Service Department. Within a week of buying it, it was on the hook going back because of alternator problems. Any time you turned on the A/C, the engine would DIE --- no matter if you were sitting still, or if you were doing 95 MPH on the interstate. Unfortunatly, this was before the LEMON LAW was enacted. GM's answer to the problem was "DON'T USE YOUR AIR CONDITIONER" --- When I complained to the GM District Service Rep, his answer was "I guess that is your tough luck!" --- out of common decency here on the board, I won't type in the rest of the conversation except that my parting remark to him was that I would never own another piece of General Motors $hit as long as I live and after 20 model years have passed, I have lived up to my promise.

I ended up trading that car after owning it for a year because it was due for 4 new tires and the gatorbacks it took would have run me another $1200. I'm not going to say that I have not had any problems with any Ford or Jeep I have owned since that car, but GM's poor handling off my problems was the deciding factor to never own another.
 

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That's your tough luck?
WTF?
I'd have cracked his jaw and then told him that was HIS tough luck.
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Mad Ogre said:
That's your tough luck?
WTF?
I'd have cracked his jaw and then told him that was HIS tough luck.
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Ogre --

When I graduated college in 1985 I was 5'10" 140# soaking wet -- The DSR was about 6'4" 250#++ --- I may have been mad, but I'm not STUPID!!

In 1969 my father bought a brand new Pontiac GTO with the 400 Ram Air --- Fantastic car when running --- my mother actually had 25 AAA calls in one month. The GM district service rep at the time's comment to my father (the dealer was a friend and got the guy to come down to talk to my father) "I'll tell you what the problem with this car is, it was built in Baltimore by a bunch of LAZY DUMB A$$h-les". After over a year of frustration, before the warranty ran out, dad sat in the driveway -- put it in neutral and gunned it til the engine blew -- then they HAD to replace the engine (which they had refused to do prior to that).

My brother had the lapse of judgement and bought an Olds Aurora (1st year out) and had all kinds of problems -- so the dealer traded him out of it for a Cadillac STS with the "Northstar" engine (you know the ad, 100,000 miles til the engine needs service) --- can we say LEMON?? It seems that when GM see's our family name, they sell us lemons!! They batted 4 for 4 with our family and they will never get another opportunity. Every company has cars that have problems, but other manufacturers have been quick to remedy the problem, and General Motors has always had a poor attitude with us.

(My wife had a 2001 Ford Escape -- 1st production year -- and it was a lemon -- Ford bought it back from us in 2002, gave us full sticker value against sticker of any 2003 Ford vehicle and did not charge us anything for the 19,000 miles we had put on it.)
 

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"I was 5'10" 140# soaking wet"
A lug wrench would have evened things out... but I see your point.

" In 1969 my father bought a brand new Pontiac GTO with the 400 Ram Air"
COOLEST.
DAD.
EVER.
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