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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:55:27 Dean Speir wrote in rec.guns:

Fiocchi of Italy (as opposed to Ozark, MO) makes a v-e-r-y hot SJHP that's over 200 fps faster than the same weight Winchester STHP in that chambering, but the "hottest" ball I've found is the 73-grain (!) Geco. Carried it in my Model 1903 "Pocket Hammerless" for years.
Who handles this ammo, Dean? I thought you had been touting the Fiochi stuff up til now. Sometimes I mis-remember - is this one of them??
 

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Geco (Gustav Genschow & Co.) has long been part of the Dynamit Nobel business family. (And yes, Dynamit Nobel was one of Alfred Nobel's companies.)

http://www.dnrws.com/retailers/index.html

FWIW: My WW1-era Colt M1903 Pocket Hammerless absolutely trived on Geco and Fiocchi ammo. The M1903 would refuse to completely cycle and eject with most American brands of .32 ACP other than Federal.
 

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Wondering if my Seecamp would like it. I'd like something with a little more zip, but the manual sez Silvertips Only !
 

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csmkersh said:
Who handles this ammo, Dean? I thought you had been touting the Fiochi stuff up til now. Sometimes I mis-remember - is this one of them??
The original newsgroup poster specified FMJ, not HP, hence the recommendation on the Geco… it is/was imported by an outfit in New Jersey, Dynamit Nobel… www.dnrws.com/index2.html… who don't seem to import that particular round any longer.

It's a terrific round for my (FMJ) requirements... but it can't be carried in a Seecamp, of course.

The stateside editions of Fiocchi pistol rounds, although part of the same company, are often considerably different than the Italian versions… often even different projectile weights (cf: 145-grain JHP and 170-grain FMJ in .40 S&W from Italy, while the Ozark-produced chamberings are 155-grain and 180-grain… very "American").

And when they do in other respects turn out to be apparently identical, often you'll find that the U.S. versions are not as "hot" as the imports.

And while my father's old U.A. Army-issue (1942) Colt's Model 1903 "Pocket Hammerless" isn't quite as fussy as Dan'l's (probably 'cause it's newer having been manufactured in 1920), it loves the Geco "FMC" and the Fiocchi 60-grain SJHP. The nominal velocity Fernando cites may be a reasonably honest one since it turned up well over 1100 fps in a borrowed LWS32 when I was testing Silvertip-alternatives about seven years ago… are ya running with me, Welder?
 

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Gotcha Dean - been shooting it some more lately, just to make sure I can still hit the barn door with it :D
 

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I got caught in all the hype with the RBCD ammo ...SUCKS

just bought .32 rbcd for my Keltec P32 and shot some at the range $45 box 20 qty

I was a little disappointed because the ammo was VERY Inaccurate, every shot veered off to the right side..???

In turn I also bought some Grizzly Extreme ammo too and that was accurate and powerful but jams real easy in the Kel-tec P32 due to the cuts in the bullet and the bullet itself is a little too long for the gun it seems, and is $50 a box of 20 qty.

I like the Grizzly Extreme for close up home protection because it opens like a "Copper Flower" when it hits ...yet it wont go threw the attacker and hit anyone in the other rooms aka...my kids.!
 
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